AD #1767 – Ford Developing a Hybrid F-150, Continental Taps Into the Cloud, Who’s Responsible for VW’s Scandal?

December 18th, 2015 at 11:53am

Runtime: 7:46

- Volkswagen Hires Feinberg for Diesel Resolution
- Ford Confirms a Hybrid F-150 is Coming
- BMW’s Detroit Auto Show Premieres
- Continental Taps Into the Cloud
- Can You Identify This Car?
- Who’s Responsible for the VW Scandal?

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35 Comments to “AD #1767 – Ford Developing a Hybrid F-150, Continental Taps Into the Cloud, Who’s Responsible for VW’s Scandal?”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    The ‘mystery machine’ appears to be the new Cadillac coming (next); whether it be called the CT7 or CT8 that I can’t tell you. At least that is my guess.

  2. David Sprowl Says:

    Caddy would be my thoughts. Few use those type of wheels.

  3. XA351GT Says:

    Ford , why? Why make another hybrid no one wants. just add it to the C-Max ,,Fusion, and Focus hybrids you can’t give away. Why are Auto companies continuing to make these things when all they do is cost them money? Your report that Fiat has to sell so many regular 500s to offset the cost of 1 500 E is just crazy. I know EPA regs are pushing this , but when they don’t sell how are they helping ? Money would be better spent light weighting and continuing to improve ICE IMO.

  4. Jon M Says:

    There is little doubt in my mind the mystery car is a Cadillac. I would be surprised if it isn’t.

  5. HtG Says:

    Why does Cadillac need another sedan? Is this some ELR sibling?

    btw, I still haven’t spied a single new MX5 on the road.

  6. michael molock Says:

    From the form factor and of course the tail lights, it’s definitely a Cadillac. But since while parked, it’s sitting beside an Audi A6, the size is telling me it might be an refreshed ATS.

  7. Brett Says:

    With regard to the VW scandal (and much of life in general), I apply the rule “Never attribute to malice that which can be readily explained by stupidity.”

    With regard to the mystery car, I agree it has a air of Cadillac about it, but there’s something about those tail lights that make me think “Korea” as in the new flagship Genesis model.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Ford is probably preparing for the future, when gas goes back up to $4.00 a gallon, and beyond. I don’t quite understand the hybrid F150, though. The GM hybrid pickups didn’t sell, even though they worked well, and were being sold at a time when gas was not relatively “cheap,” as it is now.

  9. GM Veteran Says:

    The mystery car appears to be the new Cadillac CT6. It may a version with a powertrain that hasn’t been publicly debuted yet, hence the full camo treatment.

  10. GM Veteran Says:

    Applying hybrid technology to a pickup truck (and full size SUV’s for that matter), makes more sense than small cars. The efficiency gains would be much more impactful overall, and the reductions in emissions will be exponentially greater. Corporations that buy trucks in quantity will be very interested in a hybrid that is reasonably priced and has proven durability. GM failed with their hybrids because they used the wrong technology and the cost was astronomical. A $35 – $40,000 pickup that gets 35-40 mpg will draw very strong interest.

  11. Bob Wilson Says:

    I will test drive a hybrid F150. GM’s big hybrids were a costly joke. Ford has a clue and 10 years later, the skills to make one that works.

    Bob Wilson

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The hybrid pickups should save a lot of gas, in stop and go use. The GM ones, and the hybrid Tahoe/Yukon hybrids got ~30% better mpg in city driving, even with “wrong technology,” but they cost too much. The Ford’s success will depend on the usual things, price premium, mpg, and gas prices when it hits the market.

    Regarding the BMW X4, I like hatchbacks, but why an expensive, funny looking tall hatchback like the X4, “M” or otherwise? At least it looks better than the X6 (to me).

  13. Mike Dale Says:

    While sales seem to be doing well, I see a lot of people who are just not impressed with fuel economy of the F150. Military grade aluminum aside, maybe a mild hybrid version would pick up a few MPG’s and look a whole lot better.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 Actually, checking back, I find that the hybrid Tahoe got much better EPA city mpg than the non-hybrid, 21 vs 14 mpg, but the pickups did only a little better.

  15. W L Simpson Says:

    Takes too many miles to offset the higher initial cost of a hybrid Hybrid designing needs a lot of KISS

  16. GM Veteran Says:

    The GM Hybrids claim to fame was outstanding City fuel economy. The Highway numbers were the same as the non-hybrid trucks. The problem is that the technology was quite expensive, and so the Hybrid models were the most expensive trucks GM made. Not many people could rationalize the big jump in the sticker price for the relatively limited mileage benefit. The garish HYBRID stickers and funky looking wheels they came with didn’t help either. The final nail was their low reliability. GM ended up buying some back due to owner dissatisfaction over reliability.

    Interestingly, the hybrid technology was developed with partners DaimlerChrysler and BMW. Chrysler used it for one year in the Chrysler Aspen SUV and I don’t recall BMW ever using it in a production vehicle. The technology was unique in that it mounted on the transmission, giving it very nice packaging qualities, but ultimately just didn’t present an appealing enough product to the public.

  17. MJB Says:

    Definitely a Cadillac. In addition to the tail lamps, trunk line and wheels, the exhaust cutouts are pretty characteristic of a Cadi.

    One day, I’m gonna run into you on my lunch hour, Sean. Every now and then I’m picking something up from the Orielly’s Autoparts down at the other end of that strip mall. :)

  18. Kenneth Wood Says:

    Another ugly Cadillac!

  19. RS Says:

    First guess – Cadillac. Vertical taillights, big rump of a bumper

    But is Caddy due for yet another sedan?

    Second thought – could this be the new Chrysler 300??? But no – because I am not sure they are for enough into development to have anything on the road AND Chrysler design actually builds some really great looking cars (I didn’t say high quality or reliable). Ralph Giles would not have signed off on this one!

    So yah, I agree – Caddy. If they keep clicking their AutoCad mouse maybe something will sell

  20. Ziggy Says:

    I laugh out loud when I see Ford’s use of the term “military grade aluminum” in their advertising, as if there is something special about the grade they are using since the military uses it too. Hey Ford, lots of companies use the same grade of aluminum as the military, it ain’t no big deal and it certainly wasn’t developed just for the military, there isn’t anything special about it other than it is aluminum. I’m actually surprised GM hasn’t mocked Ford in their commercials by saying GM steel is “military grade” as I am sure the military probably uses the same type in lots of their vehicles. You make me laugh Ford, but for all the wrong reasons.

  21. Joe Engelhardt Says:

    VW scandal? Boys put on your big boy shorts and leave the panties to the women! The VW engineers should get an award for being so inventive!

  22. Jerry VanWie Says:

    I did not look to the wheels, but I saw
    maybe an expertly disguised Continental.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Isn’t military grade aluminum the same as beer can grade aluminum, not that there is anything wrong with that?

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 Those who directed the engineers to do what they did should be in prison.

  25. HtG Says:

    24 Let’s see if the prosecutors can flip the engineers that did the dirty work, then work their way up to the big feed trough. Notice how carefully vw uses the word ‘errors’ to describe what happened. Very lawyerly. (MaryAnn Keller wasn’t buying the idea that it was a few engineers)

    23 Military grade aluminum sounds good during football commercials when all those tough guys are sucking back their Miller Lites.

  26. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Military-grade is just a marketing tool; it is similar to marine-grade when the manufacturer is building boats. There are many alloys of aluminum, knowing which is being used is probably a proprietary item that isn’t shared opening. While the merits of aluminum versus steel make for a lively discussion, both have their pluses and minuses.

  27. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Not exactly ‘park assist’ as we know it now,but just might surprise ya’ll:

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I guess the opposite of military grade is civilian grade, as the opposite of professional grade is amateur grade. It’s amazing what marketeers come up with.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    There is a term abbreviated BS that covers it all.

  30. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Well from my experience,the ‘military grade’ aluminum om my helicopters wasn’t anything special,neither was the ‘military grade’ armor we had.Marketing for the ignorant.

  31. Chuck Grenci Says:

    That BS is for ‘ballistic service’ right? Our product performs out of this world; sorry, couldn’t resist (and yeah, I know, I’m no comedian). ;)

    Military and civilian aircraft aluminum is of a specific grade but it is not un-obtainium, just of certain alloys (and probably more expensive than the ‘pedestrian’ alloys).

  32. G.A.Branigan Says:

    “Ballistic service” means something now,but not in my day.Our best armor for us crew,and used to protect the ‘vitals’ of our aircraft were heavy,and didn’t stop squat.Nowadays they really have some damn good protection,at a lighter weight.We just had the weight,lol.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Steel armor is kind of heavy, for flying machines. I suspect they now use Kevlar composite, or something like that. Just guessing.

  34. G.A.Branigan Says:

    The armor for our ‘chicken plates’ was steel,covered in some sort of material laminated to it.Heavy,and pretty much useless.The armor in our aircraft was of course thicker,but could easily be penetrated by ak47′s,and the rpd’s,both are just 30cal,but they were armor piercing.The 12.7mm,14.5′s,23mm’s were all armor piercing.The 37mm,and the 57mm’s that we flew against were like the ack ack you see in WWII movies.The worst was in 71 they started using the shoulder fired Strella7′s.Infared seekers,and damned accurate.All pretty sportin in an aircraft not much bigger then a VW bug.

  35. stephen Says:

    It turned out that the Ecoboost engine tech did not result in the MPG boost that they (and the public) were hoping for. Think of the even lower stats if the 150 was not lightweighted…Ford has yet to add in an advanced transmission. Would a full hybrid not cost too much, undermine the Alu weight loss gains and fail in towing heavy loads? If hybrid offered a big gain in idle/traffic mpg and a power boost to cut engine size further but the result would have to be a real world significant jump in fuel economy not 3-5%. Its surprising that regen braking is not on trucks anyway considering their weight and the benefit of smaller batteries or boosted start-stop