AD #2134 – New Camry Interior Sizzles, Activist Investors Should Back Off, Green Cars the Fastest Growing Segment

June 20th, 2017 at 11:42am

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- Green Cars the Fastest Growing Segment
- Used Batteries Get Second Life
- Ford Experiments with Subscription Services
- New Camry Interior Sizzles
- Activist Investors Should Back Off

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26 Comments to “AD #2134 – New Camry Interior Sizzles, Activist Investors Should Back Off, Green Cars the Fastest Growing Segment”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Color selection for both exteriors and interiors for the big three are dismal,uninspired,and boring as hell.At least Ram has a huge pallet to chose from for exterior colors,GM on the other hand sucks.

  2. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I have to admit that the red interior looked good in the new Camry. The red was quite subdued and the flatness (perhaps more flattering if I said satin) was appealing.

    Personally I don’t have too much of a problem with the GM exterior/interior colors. Maybe I’m dull but my vehicles are usually white or silver and I lean towards light colored interiors (living in the south with wicked summers).

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Kudos to Toyota for offering a colorful interior in a mainstream car. I hope that helps them sell more cars. Then, the rest of the industry would follow suit.

    I been annoyed for years, that you can get only black, grey, or beige interiors in mass market cars, while in the 1960′s and 1970′s, you had about 10 choices. Even in 1989, there was some choice. My ’89 Caravan has a blue interior.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    My 1974 Duster was green, with white bucket seats, a great combination, (to me). Now, you have to buy a $300K Bentley, or similar, to get that color combination.

  5. Albemarle Says:

    It looks like the major green car growth is with EVs and plug-in hybrids. Both seem to becoming popular regardless of fuel prices. The regular hybrid I think is more of a reaction to fuel prices and does not satisfy enough the market’s need to feel green.

  6. rick bradner Says:

    John,

    A bit sad to see you lump all companies in your interior comment.
    Malibu at least has had a very nice optional interior for two+ years.

  7. G.A.Branigan Says:

    My interest lie in pickups,especially the resurgence of the midsize.Having said that,the color selections for GM are terrible,both exterior and interior.I need something different,I want options.Black,gray,beige.Exterior,different shades of metallic gray,white,silver,black,a horrible shade of blue,and red.

    Ford has a much better exterior color palette,but not much for the interior.Ram has a great dark green metallic,and their interior option has a nice color of which I can’t remember the name of it,but in person it looks awesome.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    You can get a pretty nice brown interior in a Malibu, (with optional leather), but no red, blue, green, turquoise, gold, white, etc. like you could get in the “good old days” of the ’60′s and ’70′s.

  9. G.A.Branigan Says:

    I congratulate toyota for adding a red interior.It looks nice. Cars seem to have a bit more in color selection than the pickups do.I know I’ve said this many times,but my 68 Torino GT,polar white exterior and a medium dark burgundy interior.It was stunning,and comfortable.Yeah Kit,’the good old days’…sigh.

  10. Dan Turnpaugh Says:

    Looked at Chevy Silverado trucks when thinking of buying and they push the black interior and charge extra for several exterior colors. I think it would be nice having more choices when you plan on buying a $50,000 vehicle

  11. David Sprowl Says:

    As late as the early 90′s you could get green or red interiors on some cars. Come to think of it the last gen T’ bird offered colors. Those interiors were beautiful. Most likely will see 2 tones re appear for a while. Surprised that there was no mention of the Focus production moving to china. While I think it is a good move (for now) Ford’s public reasoning is questionable.

  12. Lex Says:

    The working family aspires / dreams of owning a Tesla but the reality is that they can only afford a Hybrid. People want to be “Green” because “Saving the Planet will mean Saving Ourselves”. The price point for the Tesla Model 3 will make those vehicles more accessible to the mass public however people living in inner cities and apartment houses will not be able of taking advantage of this technology due the recharging issues and accessibility. EV Carpooling where employees can recharge for free at work during the day and have a suitable place to store the vehicle at night might be a very viable way to reducing pollution and get several additional vehicles off the roads.

  13. Drew Says:

    Those off-lease vehicles in Canvas’s subscription program will need new tires and brakes at some time. Who will be responsible for that?

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 The last T-Birds had some nice colors, interior and exterior, but those were expensive cars, $40K in 2005-2006.

    I thought they should have built that car on a cheaper platform, so they could have sold it at a much lower price. The car was clearly a “cruiser,” and didn’t need the Jaguar/Lincoln LS platform and powertrain for the intended market.

  15. Roger Blose Says:

    I currently own a 2006 Mustang GT with a red leather/vinyl factory interior. With a black exterior, eleven years later, I still get compliments in the nice looking contrast. It reminds me of the old days growing up with red, green, and blue color keyed interiors.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    @John or Sean,
    Do you have any data on the effect on potential buyers regarding cars from China? Does that country of origin drive potential customers away from the Volvos and Buick from China?

    The Focus, being a truly mainstream car, would seem a real test of that effect. People, including myself, have become comfortable with some products, like phones and computers, coming from China, but for me at least, cars are different. I definitely would not have bought a Corvette from China, and probably wouldn’t have bought a Chinese Prius.

  17. Ukendoit Says:

    14) A less-expensive variant of Ford’s (DEW) platform known as DEW Lite was under development, and much of that went into the D2C platform of which the 2005-20014 Mustang was built on. The differences between D2C and DEW are mostly in the suspension. Maybe if the T-Bird could have hung in there a few more years, it would have thrived on that Mustang platform.

  18. BobD Says:

    On reusing EV batteries for home power storage, how would you build a business on needing a supply of used batteries. If you have to wait 8 to 10 years for a small quantities of EV vehicles to need battery replacements, it seems like it would be very unpredictable supply. Would you also have to buy these used batteries from the owners, or do you buy the EVs, remove the battery, than scrap the car??? It is probably too expensive put a new battery in an 8-10 year old car.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Uncrashed 10 year old EV’s in areas without road salt or sea spray should be in very good condition, well worth a new battery. The power train is very simple with little to wear out. In normal driving, the brakes last almost forever, with much of the braking being regenerative charging of the battery.

    I don’t know about pure EV’s, but I’ve heard that for 2nd generation Priuses, there are enough, or nearly enough used batteries from wrecks to support the demand for replacements. I’d think that might be the case with Leaves, the highest volume pure EV.

  20. Len Simpson Says:

    every time EV’s are the subject, I feel the need to mention this—https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/nissan-e-power-combines-gas-and-electric-but-not-like-a-typical-hybrid/ SIMPLE, LIGHT, CHEAP! Most of the conglomerated disasters we’re being saddled with today are the results of design engineers trying to justify their existence

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 Cheap, (maybe) but only because of an excess of unused Leaf motors. With its big motor, and fairly big generator, it has more “rare earth” materials than a Toyota or Ford hybrid, so if produced in high volume, it would not be cheap.

    Then, it will be a gas hog under many conditions, especially highway driving. I only wish it were widely sold, so we could get real world mpg and other info. I keep looking for info.

  22. Anthony Parisio Says:

    I feel your use of earnings is not clear or misleading for most people. According to http://www.investopedia.com :

    Earnings, specifically retained earnings, and profit are often used as synonyms in corporate finance, although they are different terms and have different meanings. These differences largely center around accounting treatment. A company’s earnings are equal to revenue less costs of production over a given period of time. Profit is equal to total revenue less all expenses. In the right context, these could be equal to each other, although that is rare. Big gaps between earnings and profits might be a sign the company spends too much time and money on unproductive activity.

    Earnings Vs. Profit: An Example
    Consider an example where a toy manufacturer sells $10,000 worth of toys in one week. It did not make any money from other sources over the same week, so its total revenue is $10,000.

    If it cost $7,000 to manufacture those toys, the earnings for the company are $3,000 for the week, or $10,000 – $7,000. This does not take into account other fixed costs, however. The company may have paid interest on some debt, had to pay an accountant or fix a toilet at its facility. Suppose the company incurred $1,800 worth of these overhead expenses during the week. Now, its weekly profit is only $1,200 even though earnings show $3,000.

    Read more: What is the difference between earnings and profit? | Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/070615/what-difference-between-earnings-and-profit.asp#ixzz4kdMTcODL
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    Tesla brought in $7000,000,000.00 dollars last year. Their earnings is that minus cost of producing the cars. However because reinvestment of earnings into massive growth there is no profit left. There is a loss. That does not mean there is no earnings.

  23. Bob Wilson Says:

    In PriusChat, we track the past four months of efficient car sales which includes diesels (hit my link) and we see:

    (1) Prius hatchback recovering with the new model and TSS-P
    (2) Ford Fusion caught fire in January and not cooled off
    (3) RAV4 hybrid a surprising sleeper keeps climbing
    (4) Niro giving the RAV4 a race

    Past experience is a new model goes through a four month boost in sales before flattening out. The Niro may be entering that cool down phase.

    Bob Wilson, Huntsville, AL

  24. FSTFWRD Says:

    We waited forever for the new (2017) Mazda CX-5 to arrive but can’t believe the limited colors, and mostly all have the black interior. Hate the limited selection and the “tan/parchment” is really black with off white inserts, equally unlikable. So, were back to the CRV, but don’t really want a 1.5 liter with a turbo. But Honda does have a whopping 3 interior colors, but still very limited exterior colors. I guess your are OK if you want silver or white. I don’t.

    What to do???

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #22
    I was surprised that they have TSS-P/adaptive cruise control on all 2017 Priuses, but that is part of why I bought one. My 2010 was giving no hints of problems.

    I wish CR would hurry up and test the Niro and Ioniq. I’m curious about the gas mileage they will get when they do their full tests.

  26. Ukendoit Says:

    When my sister bought her Hyundai Elantra (about 20 years ago), she wanted red or blue but they only offered those colors if she paid more for the sporty GT model so she ended up with silver. I wonder if that is part of the vicious cycle of drab colors; no one is buying them due to no availability on the vehicle they want or not wanting to pay extra for a good color, so then the manufacturers don’t offer what isn’t selling…