AD #2567 – Ghosn Tossed Back in Jail, Fewer Open Recalls on the Road, Ford Gives China Operations More Autonomy

April 4th, 2019 at 11:43am

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- Carlos Ghosn Re-Arrested Again in Japan
- Elon Musk Headed to Court
- Fewer Open Recalls on the Road
- Nominee for NHTSA Head Clears Hurdle
- Another Barn Find in Uruguay
- Lincoln Aviator Features 3D Sound System
- Ford Gives China Operations More Autonomy
- Ford Electrifying Its European Lineup

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43 Comments to “AD #2567 – Ghosn Tossed Back in Jail, Fewer Open Recalls on the Road, Ford Gives China Operations More Autonomy”

  1. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Bad analogy Sean on recalls and jury duty summons: many may ignore a recall but let me give you some advice; don’t ignore a jury duty summons.

  2. MJB Says:

    Off-topic here – I, for one, am liking the new lineup of Bridgestone spots here on A.D. much better than the older ones. These actually hold my attention.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Barn find, some kind of ‘30s BMW?

  4. dave Says:

    barn find..Anglia

  5. Larry D. Says:

    It may have some sort of kidneys but the roundel on top of it does not look like BMW’s

  6. David Hanbury Says:

    Mystery car is a 1948 Ford Anglia.

  7. David Hanbury Says:

    Mystery car is a 1948 Ford Anglia..

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    I like the looks of the Chinese escape a lot more than the US version which looks much cheaper and bland. Like I stated yesterday the US version just looks like a taller focus.

  9. Albemarle Says:

    The Japanese legal system looks to be a mess. Nissan yells and they jump to do the company’s bidding. Ghosn may be guilty, but he’s hardly a threat to others. Keeping him in jail unnecessarily is expensive and just punitive. Throw him in jail after he’s convicted, not before unless necessary. He’s much too public a figure to be a flight risk with an ankle bracelet and no passport.

    I’d suggest Elon not visit Japan. You never know…

  10. Jim Haines Says:

    I’ll go with above and English Ford Anglia as well
    As far as escape looks like a KIA Deal to me a copy cat deal on the grill of the newer KiAs

  11. MARK TILTON Says:

    Its a late 40s english FORD Anglia, My grandfather who was a Ford Dealer in Gregory SD. brought in about a half dozen of these in the late 40s. I can only remember 1 in area into the 1960s , all turned into drag cars !

  12. Gordon Garside Says:

    My guess about today’s mystery car…being a 2 door I am saying its an Anglia, made by Ford in England. If I recall corectly, it had solid axles front and rear with a single transverse leaf springs, on for front and one for rear.

  13. WineGeek Says:

    Elon is his own worst enemy!!! :)

    Why isn’t Ford bringing all that electrification to the US? I guess the US government isn’t much interested in the planet under the present administration.

  14. BobD Says:

    Barn find – As others have suggested, a late 1940′s British-made Ford Anglia. My brother had one he drag raced in the mid-70s with a big block Chevy up front. A pretty short wheelbase that made for an interesting/challenging run down the drag strip.

  15. Rick Anderson Says:

    The mystery vehicle looks like an early 50′s Ford Anglia to me.

  16. Barry T Says:

    I agree with comments that the 2020 USA Escape looks more car-like and less rugged than the Chinese variation … and it makes me wonder – Is Ford doing that to make room/differentiation for the coming “Baby Bronco?”

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I like the US Escape better. If they’d lower it a little, it would look like a nice, actual wagon, with the attractive front end of the Fusion.

  18. gary susie Says:


  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15. Yesterday, for the first time in years, I saw an O.J. Bronco on the street.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 Did most of them have Chevy V-8s?

  21. BobD Says:

    20 – I recall seeing some with supercharged 426 Hemis which were even wilder to handle.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 I can imagine they would be quite a handful.

  23. jim wight Says:

    Looks like a Ford Prefect, built in England.

  24. Larry D. Says:

    I watched AAH with Munro early this morning. This show should really get a transcript for anybody who could not watch it. Hopefully they will show many segments from it on AD next week.

    Most of Munro’s new info was actually not about the CHinese Model 3. But it was very interesting still.

    It is interesting to see that those who badmouth Tesla’s truly AWESOME models, are the ones that do not have a clue, while those that praise them to high heaven, like Munro, are the ones that actually KNOW what they are, how effciently they are made, and especially how breathtaking their performance is, even that of the cheap little Model 3.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    24 PS and, most important of all, not only they have done all that, but in the case of Munro, they have torn the models APART and broken them down to the most minute detail and found the competitive advantages of this tiny David (Tesla, who, 11 years ago made 1 (one) vehicle but in 2018 they made 399,999, over the establishment Goliaths (BMW and GM and all the rest of them)

  26. Larry D. Says:

    Another piece of info about March sales is that fleet sales were very strong.

    a LOT of comments on this one.

    First of all, if Uber and Lyft are so bloody successful, and nobody uses Hertz and Avis and Budget any more, how come these guys keep buying so many fleet cars and trucks???

    Second, this has huge implications on sales. For example, where would Toyota, Nissan, and especially Hyundai Kia be without the CAMRY being the fleet Queen (Or is it the Altima?) and every other car in Rental Lots seems to be some lousy Hyundai or Kia? Imagine where H-K sales would be without the rentals! Then imagine how bad H-K profits must be, if to survive they have to sell a ton to daily rental fleets.

    Got to go to a meeting now, more an hour later.

  27. lambo2015 Says:

    13 Ford isn’t bringing all the electrification to the US because their isn’t a market for those vehicle. Yes Tesla is doing well but that is a niche vehicle and has more going for it than just being an EV. Plain old economy cars that have been electrified are not selling well in the US. At least not in volumes enough to even justify importing them to the US.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 The daily rental companies buy a lot of cars, so they won’t have to bother with changing oil. They just replace them when the first oil change is due.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    28 I guess when they get them so cheap, the depreciation is not that steep in the first year, or six months. They could make an oil change for $50 or $20 depending what oil they use, but they will still lose $1,000s.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    ‎”Branden Flasch‎
    TESLA Owners Worldwide
    12 hrs ·

    Used nosecone AP1 Model S 70D with 105k miles for $32k or Model 3 Standard Plus for $42k (MSM+AP)? Which is the better buy? Which will hold value best over 18-24months from now? Very curious to see what you guys think.”

    Look at these unbelievably high used model S prices. I could get a magnificent Merc S class with the same $105 k miles for less than half of this $32k.

    This is 100% contrary to all the reservations in this forum about battery life of the S and all that!

    Just amazing

    Explanations welcome

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 Actually, they probably do change the oil, or I hope they do. I checked the Avis used car sale site, and most of them I saw have ~30-40K miles.

  32. ChuckGrenci Says:

    26, I think the reason Hertz, Budget, etc. keep buying fleet cars is because they still have thriving business’; it’s probably the taxi’s that are at the losing end from Uber, Lyft, etc.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 To me, the used prices for 5 year old, 100K mile Tesla Ss are too high, especially given the unknowns with the very expensive battery. I’d certainly be much more inclined to buy a new Model 3 Standard Plus for the same money, even though the S is s nicer car..

    Of course, a used S-Class Benz a few years old is a smoking bargain. There’s a remote chance that it might need a $5K transmission at 200K miles, but it won’t need a $30K battery.

  34. lambo2015 Says:

    29 I doubt they lose money as most rentals are around $38 a day and even if they only send it out 80% of the days in a year they would get over $11,000 per year. Could basically pay off a H/K in two years and whatever they sell for is profit. Doubt they care about depreciation as most rental companies don’t keep cars over 2 years and 50k miles. Assuming fleet sales are a decent discount. I have no idea personally.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 From what I see, a big daily rental car market is vacationers who fly places, like Florida, and plan to go places other than just from an airport to a hotel. Also, I’ve known a number of people who rent vehicles to take on vacations, if they occasionally need a different, normally larger vehicle than they own.

    In my case, Uber has replaced daily rentals for going from an airport to a hotel. I’ve used taxis for that purpose, but from my experience, Uber is cheaper, and generally works better.

  36. Larry D. Says:

    32 that makes sense.

    33 I agree, but we still have no explanation as to why are those used Model S’s (and note that this one was not even the top model the 100 D but the much smaller battery 70D.), six to seven years old and with over 100k miles (a lot of miles for a BEV) can’t go below $30k.

    Are we sure that the very expensive battery cannot be repaired (or just replace the one or more 50 laptop battery bricks that are bad, instead of replacing the 1,000 or 2,000 laptop batteries that are the whole package?

  37. Larry D. Says:

    34 the biggest depreciation is during the first year, even bigger if they sell them after only 6 months. But the discount they get helps. $38 a day is possible only for a weekly rental of a small Hyundai Elantra, which I had to do once. Dailies are much higher, unless you go to a second tier Daily rental co which keeps its cars 2 years and 60k miles or more.

  38. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36 The battery modules, and probably even individual cells could be replaced, but generally, they would all have similar service life. When a few modules go bad, I suspect it probably won’t be too long before a lot of them go bad. I suspect it’s way too early to know the whole story of how it will work out.

    Here’s an oldish, but well thought out article about Tesla Roadster battery degradation.

  39. Larry D. Says:

    33 If I bought a 2011-13 S class with say 110k miles for $15k now, the way I put so few miles on each of my cars, it would take 30 years to do 200k miles, but assuming that it did, I doubt I could get away with just $5k for the transmission.

    A very old friend of mine, who did his 20 years in the Navy before going in academia and eventually industry, bought a 1989 BMW 735 (the 6) with very few miles from a dealer in the mod-90s, and some warranty, and soon after he bought it, he told me both the engine and the transmission had to be replaced, at a cost of $8k and $6k, half of which was covered by the dealer-warranty. This was 25 years ago, and the S was far more expensive than that 7 back then, so I estimate at least $12k today for the tranny and maybe $20k for a new engine.

  40. Kit Gerhart Says:

    39 Wouldn’t you have to be rather unlucky to need either an engine or transmission in an S or 7 at 200K miles? Are expensive German cars that much worse that my friend’s cheap, rebadged Chevy with 240K miles?

  41. Larry D. Says:

    40 Generally yes. If the 200k miles are done in 2 years, like that salesman with the 560 S coupe, they are very easy on everything, incl parts that are never used on a cruise control highway drive. If the 200 k miles are like mine, with cold starts and 1.5 mile each way commutes, they are 10 times worse.

    Incidentally, when I stayed with Pete and his family in Arlington VA in Jan 2014, he still owned the 1989 735, and I was very surprised to hear that the alternator he needed for it would cost him only $300 at the dealer! Because I had a VW passat 1979, when the dollar was worth 5 times what it is today, and a new alternator cost me also $300 back then!!!

  42. Phred Says:

    I checked the data base and YEAH! There are no new large power plant permit request in process or approved in the past(!!)So where is all this electricity coming from for charging EVs. There has been and is not “excess electricity generation capacity. And forget about windmills charging your EV at night!

    And 25 miles of total range in EV mode. That is about 2/3 of a gallon of gas in a good used car!

  43. mike leidi Says:

    barn find is an Anglia looks like a pre 1949 due to the lack of flip up turn indicators in the door pillar. I watch the shoe every day on you tub. Very informative ( FREE CARLOS )