AD #2591 – Workhorse Could Buy GM Ohio Plant, VW Takes Deposits on 1st ID EV, Kia Delays U.S. Soul EV Introduction

May 9th, 2019 at 11:48am

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Runtime: 6:16

0:07 Auto Industry Entering Tough Phase
0:52 North American Market Slows
1:11 GM Might Sells Lordstown Plant to Workhorse
2:33 VW Readies 1st ID Electric Vehicle
3:27 6-Wheeled Race Car Inspires Wild Go Kart
4:00 Honda Names Its Little Urban EV
4:23 Kia Delaying U.S. Introduction of Soul EV
5:00 Busch Beer Creates “Millennial” NASCAR

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25 Comments to “AD #2591 – Workhorse Could Buy GM Ohio Plant, VW Takes Deposits on 1st ID EV, Kia Delays U.S. Soul EV Introduction”

  1. ChuckGrenci Says:

    This is total speculation, and I’m not really believing myself when I say, maybe GM is going to work with Workhorse and produce GM electric vehicles out of the Lordstown plant. I can see a modified front end on that Workhorse that might just make a similar vehicle look Chevrolet’esk.

    With a seeming propensity to still go electric in Europe, and pre-orders of the VW electric fairly robust, maybe Tesla doesn’t have a lock over there (as has been alluded here and in the industry). I’m standing by (on this one).

  2. Phred Says:

    The Lordstown Plant is verrry large do maybe the business plan is to establish an”EV” Plant Location for other EV activities to be spawned.

  3. GM Veteran Says:

    FYI: Workhorse has another plant in Indiana where it is about ready to start production of four different sizes of their all-new electric delivery vehicle. They have an order from UPS for 1,000 vans and will likely get more orders once production commences. Pricing is directly comparable to ICE delivery vans, so the fuel and maintenance savings will be very attractive to fleet administrators. The Indiana plant has the capacity to build 60,000 units per year. There is more to this company than many press outlets are reporting.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    Maybe Workhorse plans to assemble batteries in Lordstown in addition to vehicles.

    Have to say that Peter Bigelow would have been a better character name for the movie than “Deuce Bigalow male gigolo”. :-)

  5. MJB Says:

    Sounds like this go-kart kid, Gene Lin, may be the next Christian von Koenigsegg.

  6. Larry D. Says:

    VW EV: “205- to 341-miles. This is based on the WLTP test.”

    How much is this in EPA miles? I bet 150 to 250 tops. And in MI miles in the winter, 100 to 180.

  7. Larry D. Says:

    EV pickup trucks. They will have a worse chance to be sold than a speaker at Outback Steakhouse trying to sell vegetarianism to the patrons.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    To bad it takes a story about companies that have taken over old GM plants to get Elio back in the news. I was hopeful for them but I seriously doubt they will ever get off the ground now.

  9. Bob Wilson Says:

    I wondering to what extent Teslas have gutted, high margin luxury car sales might have hurt the other manufacturers?

  10. Larry D. Says:

    9 to a HUGE Extent. VW alone is spending 34 BILLION $ or, worse, Euros, enough money to launch 10 new ICE models, on its EV, which it hopes to do well NOT in the two biggest EV markets in the world, US and esp. China, but only in Europe!

  11. XA351GT Says:

    Well I bet Harvick is thrilled with the idea of driving that abortion on wheels ,because his sponsor lost a bet. Sounds like a real slap at the millennial crowd that NASCAR is bending over backwards to appease. I wonder if his helmet will have a “man-bun” attached to it as well?

  12. Larry D. Says:

    8 the Elio concept makes zero sense. You would probably be safer in a motorcycle if you know how to ride one, than in this contraption which gives the illusion of more safety but in fact it does not have to meet the safety standards that even the cheapest Kia meets. The sooner these fools realize it, the fewer millions they will lose. Then again, ” a fool and his $ are soon parted”, and I have no sympathy for the silly venture “capitalists” who gave this guy $ to make this joke.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 VW are building an electric Golf-like hatch to sell in Europe, where a lot of car sales are Golfs, and other Golf-like hatches. They will also build electric CUVs and sedans, for other markets, like China and the US. We’ll see how they do, but if people have a place to charge them, I’d expect the ID.3 to do well in Europe. Early interest seems to indicate that.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 Anyone that buys a three wheeled vehicle already is aware it only meets the requirements for a motorcycle. There is no expectation of vehicle safety with them. So assuming that it would meet the standards that a Kia does would be foolish on the buyers part. Besides the Elio does have a cage and an airbag so I’m pretty sure it would be safer than a open bike.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 If they are going to have a pink race car, it should be bright/hot pink, like the Force India F1 cars. That color really shows up, and in a better way than Harvick pink will.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 EV pickup trucks make sense, for many of the buyers who have an actual use for a pickup truck. The plumber/carpenter/AC installer, etc. can do his 50 or so miles of driving for his days work, charge it overnight at home, and be ready to go the next day.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    A year ago, Elio said they would build production cars “next year,” which mean pretty soon, if it happens.

    https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116698_elio-motors-says-it-will-build-production-cars-next-year

  18. Ukendoit Says:

    The link on my name is to an article from last week stating that in April for the first time ever, renewable energy sources have out produced coal energy production. For now, it is only expected to last for April and May, as heavy AC use kicks in around June and the coal plants all kick in full output, but it is supposed to be a sign of things to come. Hydro-electric plants surpassed coal consistently in 2015.
    Naysayers frequently say that EVs just transplant the pollution from the roads to the electricity production site, but as wind, solar, and geothermals increase in number that is no longer a valid complaint. This trend will also help to take up the slack of needing more electricity than is currently available.

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    17 They have postponed the production start date more times than I can remember. They were pushing it out month by month then by quarters and finally pushed it out by like 18 months and then again by quarters. I think they have actually given up on publicly announcing a start date, as it became basically a joke. I would ride my motorcycle all year round like I did in L.A but here in the Midwest I need the enclosure so it would be a good commuter option.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19. I suspect GM will make S10s in that Shreveport plant again, before Elio makes any of their machines to sell to customers.

  21. FSTFWRD Says:

    @20 Should I hold my breath for either one of those to happen??

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 Probably not

  23. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0VuwW_aOxQ

    I stumbled on this older ATW where some guy with a fleet of Teslas uses them intensively, has more than 250k miles with each of them, and claims they require next to nothing in maintenance, compared to ICEs.

    I think if one makes a zillion miles a year (such as a taxi or traveling salesman or one with a 100+ mile round trip commute), a BEV is the ideal vehicle, while somebody like me, who drives barely 2-3k a year with each of my cars, it makes much less sense.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 If nothing else, the ICE car would need 25 oil changes in that 250K miles.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    23, 24 I should clarify, it would not make sense for somebody like me from the $-saving point of view, I could still buy it for its green-ness and esp. for its performance.

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