AD #2616 – Quick Payoff for GM Heavy Duty Investment, Tesla Denied Tariff Exemption, Alpine’s Sportier A110S

June 14th, 2019 at 11:59am

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Runtime: 8:28

0:06 Quick Payoff for GM Heavy Duty Investment
0:50 Tariffs Could Create A Lot of American Jobs
2:04 Barn Find
3:42 Tesla Denied Tariff Exemption
4:16 AutoDrive Challenge Winner
4:50 New Safety Technology Could be Mandated
6:01 Alpine A110S
6:49 Magna Develops New Seat Foam

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27 Comments to “AD #2616 – Quick Payoff for GM Heavy Duty Investment, Tesla Denied Tariff Exemption, Alpine’s Sportier A110S”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    another million jobs paying income taxes should also help the economy.

    Sean I believe you are correct on the barn find and the real cool thing about that car if I’m not mistaken is the fuel filler is under the tail lamp.

  2. David Sprowl Says:

    I’d concur with the answer being Cadillac series 62.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    The new safety features would be beneficial depending on how they implement it. I have driven my wife to work in her car she got out and I was two blocks away before realizing she took the key with her. Not a problem as long as I don’t stop and shut the car off. If the vehicle shuts off a few minutes after the key has left that could leave someone stranded just by placing it in park. IMO if the key is more that a few feet away it should shut the car off obviously leaving you the ability to remove items from the trunk without shutting off.

  4. Kevin A Says:

    the ‘deal’ with American multinationals has always been that they can operate in my foreign country ONLY if they provide local employment. In Canada, GM will soon be one factory away from providing no benefits at all. If that factory closes, to return to the US, GM can look forward to losing all its sales here. Something to think about before closing foreign factories.

  5. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I’d have to go with the ’56 Caddy series 62 as well.

    The Alpine looks pretty good; kind of expensive but if it rings your bell, what the heck. There are, for sure, betters alternatives out there (at much better prices).

  6. Drew Says:

    Our cars chirp the horn if the key leaves the vehicle. It only chirps after all the doors are closed, so the noise can be avoided if you are simply exiting to get the mail from the mailbox. If ignored or missed the horn, the message center reminds you that the key is missing.

    Automatic engine shutoff is a good idea, but accommodations are needed for vehicles that have long idle duties like police and other emergency vehicles at a crash site. A cleaner solution would be a CO sensor that automatically shuts down the vehicle as CO nears dangerous levels.

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    Not sure who will fill those million new jobs, some of which will require certain types of manufacturing skills. They are having difficulty staffing our existing factories now. If Americans move up to these better paying jobs from lower wage jobs, we will need to welcome those immigrants we are currently shunning to keep America running smoothly by filling those low wage, non-skilled jobs. That would be an ironic end result of Trumps America First campaign.

  8. Drew Says:

    @7 – First, we will need to take every able-body welfare recipient to task… take one of these manufacturing jobs or else.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I can’t imagine that the on again, off again tariff threats will have much near-term effect on US factory jobs, unless there are “ready to go,” fully tooled plants that could be started up quickly. Who knows what will happen next week?

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 With Oshawa closing, Chrysler will have more manufacturing in Canada than GM, with the Windsor van, and Brampton car plants. GM will have only Ingersoll, and an engine plant.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 I don’t know what my cars do if the car and electronic key part ways, while the car is running. I’ll have to do an experiment to find out.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I knew immediately that the “barn find” was a Cadillac, but I had no idea what year, except that it was 1949-1956. You guys are much better on knowing years of ’50s Cadillacs than I am.

    #1 I remember from when I was a young kid, that my aunt’s ’49 Cadillac had the gas fill under the left tail light. I also remember it having a push button to crank the engine, while my parents’ ’50 Dodge had “twist the key” cranking. I guess GM was behind Chysler on starter switches, but was far ahead of Chrysler in automatic transmissions, until 1957.

  13. XA351GT Says:

    GM Veteran Those immigrants that wish to come here legally and follow our laws and customs will always be welcome just as most of our ancestors were. It’s those that wish to cut the line in front of those that have waited their turn is where most sane people draw the line.

  14. XA351GT Says:

    Drew @ #7 Amen brother, Too many people gaming the system . Ironic how there are signs in national Parks to not feed the animals or they won’t fend for themselves and then we do the direct opposite with people who can help themselves in order to buy their votes in November. Those that don’t need it are taking from those that truly do need help.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Totally unrelated to today’s show, but I was just watching a Mecum auction on TV, and, for good reasons, like fumes and noise, they push the cars through the auction. Still, I keep wondering if there is any way to know if the cars actually run, and drive decently? I certainly wouldn’t want to bid a lot of money on a car that I didn’t know was even drivable, but what you see on TV doesn’t indicate that they run at all. Does anyone here know about this?

  16. Drew Says:

    @14 – You should run for office. I’d vote for you. I can’t run for office because I am an equal opportunity offender (i.e., too blunt at times).

  17. Larry D. Says:

    16 Since I have far better things to do with my time than run for public office, I can be as blunt as I want all the time.

  18. ChuckGrenci Says:

    12, Kit
    Yeah I knew it was a fifties Cadillac but had to google photos to close in on the year. My across the street neighbor had a ’55 (I believe) so I knew for sure it was a Cadillac of that vintage (but I lacked the finer details); now my fifties and sixties Chevrolets, I’m pretty much a scholar. :D

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 I know Chevrolets from ’55 through the ’60s, but I’m not sure I could date ’50-’54s.

  20. Larry D. Says:

    I went back to see short parts of the video.

    On that criminally neglected barn find, it looked so much better in the photo (obviously that was the one)

    On the retro (or not) Alpine, I am really not impressed. Even the ‘sportier’ version of an alleged sporty car is lame (but probably thanks to its tiny dimensions and weight it still has decent acceleration), its interior is really bad, and does not belong to a $75,000 (that’s 60,000 Euros, so don’t jump to falsely correct me), and the hood and front end design, while it may be trademark Renault Alpine, does not look good at all. Verdict? Another Loser from the Losermakers in Fronce (that’s how they say it, not a typo!)

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    For those who have about 13 minutes to kill, here is an interesting comparison of the Alpine, and its most direct competition, Porsche Caymen. The Cayman is the GTS, and the Alpine a “base” A110, but it’s still an interesting video.

    https://youtu.be/Nd3Md4YT9J0

  22. Larry D. Says:

    I looked the A110 up at Wikipedia and it is really Miata-lightweight, 2300-2400 lbs, and also quite small in dimensions, but with twice the HP it should be a rocket, yet it is not a 2 or even a 3 second car (accel below 3 or 4 sec respectively). Besides the poor interior, I would never feel safe in such a tiny car for everyday and esp highway driving. The Cayman is bigger and heavier.

    I had to drive downtown on Fri for various errands, a visit to the dentist (1/3 the price in the US private dentists, and just as good) and my weekly shopping, then on the way home there was a 911 Carrera 4s or something next to my white E Bluetec. The 911 looked like new, and it was hard to guess its model year, except it would be after the 1990s. It looks like a work of art on wheels. Really. Not a single fault in the exterior styling. Perfection.

    No wonder Porsche has sold over a million already, despite their six figure prices. And makes $20,000 on average profit on each one.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here’s another interesting test, including a range of sports cars sold in Europe. The A110 is more-or-less between the Cayman and Lotus Elise is lightness, and civility. The Audi TT RS is quite different, and pricier, but performs very well. All of these cars are certainly “niche” vehicles, but except for maybe the Elise, would work as daily drivers for a lot of people.

    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/comparison/2018/alpine-a110-vs-porsche-718-cayman-vs-lotus-elise-220-cup-vs-audi-tt-rs-quick-group-test-review/

  24. Larry D. Says:

    Many of these cars have puny 1.8 engines. Reminds me of the Toyota 1.8s which were used on many tiny Lotuses at the time. I rented a Celica coupe in Denver once which might have the same engine. Was not impressed at all with its power or performance, and on top of that the rear visibility was atrocious. Plus quite cramped inside, but I guess those who buy them want them like that.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The current Lotus Elise uses a supercharged Toyota 1.8 of the same engine family as used in Corollas.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/rare-rides-the-suv-oddity-which-is-a-1998-laforza/#more-1675344

    “Featuring the supercharged GM 6-liter V8 and 52,000 miles on the odometer, it sold at Sotheby’s in Fort Lauderdale in April 2018. For $4,125.”

    Can’t argue with the price.Surprisingly low for such a rare bird.

  27. BobD Says:

    15 (Kit) Most or all of the cars sold at Mecum auctions are available/on display ahead of time so you can talk to the owners, “inspect”, and determine the pedigree of what you might be bidding on. Going to one of these auctions is like going to a car show.