AD #2665 – August Sales Could be Soft, FBI Raids Home of UAW President, Tesla Rolls Out Its Own Insurance

August 29th, 2019 at 11:44am

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Runtime: 7:18

0:08 August Sales Could be Soft
0:44 FBI Raids Home of UAW President
0:58 Tesla Rolls Out Its Own Insurance
1:35 New Peugeot PHEV Sips Fuel
2:56 New Limited Edition Mopar ’19 Revealed
3:50 Hyundai Upcycles Leftover Material
4:20 What Vehicle Did This Old Wheel Go On?
5:11 Contract Negotiations Could Get Messy

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42 Comments to “AD #2665 – August Sales Could be Soft, FBI Raids Home of UAW President, Tesla Rolls Out Its Own Insurance”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That looks like a wheel cover, not a wheel. The bolt spacing is too large, and “bolt” appearance doesn’t look right for it to be a wheel.

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    ’71-’72 LTD, only the one you have has a custom paint job?


    1,2,3: Sure looks like the one just with a orange painted insert. However, given the size of the tire I am not thinking LTD. This style hubcap was also used on the 72, 73, 78, and 79 Ford F100 truck which would seem to align with the tire size.

  5. David Sprowl Says:

    The wheel looks to be modified with the orange paint. Otherwise it is a spot on 1970 or 1971 hub cab for a Ford LTD

  6. David Sprowl Says:

    #4 I think you might right. But when I look at tire sizing from the 70 or 71 LTD it is the same as what some of the F150 left the factory on.

  7. Ed Says:

    Hub cap. I’m guessing 1976 Ford f100 . We had one but was painted black.

  8. ArtG Says:

    Re the special edition MoPar, so much for those ‘Barracuda’ rumors.

  9. Barry Coles Says:

    Hi Guys, Number 4 wins, I sent in the picture of the Truck to Sean. A 77 Ford F150 custom-explorer package. Nice bench seat and a good stance.

  10. Mike Smith Says:

    Wheel cover from a 1974r75 F150 with the Explorer package

  11. Steve W Says:

    I’m guessing that the wheel is from a tractor.

  12. bradley cross Says:

    Good to lightly pressure automakers on efficiency. I say bump the US requirements up by 1mpg a year for 5 years.

    I predict Tesla insurance will go away within 5 years. Are Telsa really putting their limited money on the line or are they branding another company resources.

    UAW have just proved they dont really care about their members. Its all about stealing money and being untouchable. When you cant get fired you can do (almost) whatever you want. Enter FBI.

    Recycling for fashion is a great idea. Lets hope it expands.

  13. Larry D. Says:


    Here are trunk capacities for several 1972-74 Original Beetles. I had to google it in German (VW Kaefer Kofferraum), and after going through three dozen useless links, here is the only one that had the numbers (In liters, for front and rear cargo room)

    All of them have 210 lt up front and 106 in the back

  14. Larry D. Says:

    12 in that link it also has the fuel efficiencies, and it is just amazing the amount of progress we made since then, the tiny Beetle with just 44 HP and 88 NM torquE and 890 kg curb weight burned more gas than my 208 HP, 400 LBFT (550 NM), 2,000 KG E 320 Bluetec 2007 and 8.

  15. Lambo2015 Says:

    So an automaker like Tesla can put safety devices in their vehicles to help prevent accidents. This will reduce accidents which should lower insurance premiums. But the high cost to replace those items raises premiums to a point that its more expensive to insure a safer car? No way around it the insurance companies will bend you over either way. Good for Tesla and I hope the insurance venture proves to be successful for them. I don’t see this as being any different that GMAC financing division of GM which at times made more money that GM if memory serves me right.

    The wheel is a 235/75/15 which is pretty wide and makes me wonder if that was offered on the Mustang II.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    The hubcap was offered on 1970 thru 1972 Ford Trucks, Vans and the Thunderbird.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Mopar 19.. Really? That cannot possibly be the name that was so controversial. What a let down. Sorry John/Sean but I was really hoping for something more exciting that another trim package of the already old Challenger design. So visually the only difference is some unique new striping. Yawn….

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 Thanks for the info. Those would probably be Super Beetles, with the strut front suspension, which had bigger front trunks that the 1970 and earlier cars with transverse torsion bars. I think they sold both Super and non-super Beetles in the US in ’71 and/or ’72, but not sure about Germany.

    When I had my Beetle, mostly in Scotland, I got barely over 20 mpg per Imperial gallon. I had it floored a lot, between all of the curves on the narrow, twisty roads, but still, my 2010 Mini would probably almost double that mileage, going the same speeds. My Beetle was a 57 hp, ~1600 cc. That engine was first used in 1970 in US spec cars. I think the biggest engines in the European market ones were 1500 cc, but they were a little faster, top speed, than my US spec 1600, as determined by driving on German autobahns.
    The local market 1300s were almost as fast as my car.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It looks like those wheel covers could have been used on about everything Ford sold at the time, except maybe Pinto. I found that the 1972 LTD used 14 and 15 inch wheels. Pickups, vans, Thunderbirds, and about everything else would have used 15s as one of the wheel sizes.

  20. JWH Says:

    VW Beetle – Having owned a 1964 Beetle while in school in the late 60′s, the throttle was binary (on or off). Top speed was in the neighborhood of 70 MPH +/- a little depending on grade & wind, while I remember fuel economy in the 25 MPG range.

    Modern electronics has done wonders for today’s vehicles. My wife’s Fusion (325 HP Net) is very similar to my 1970 Corvette (350 HP Gross) with much better fuel economy & emissions. The muscle cars of late 60′s & 1970 are not that impressive compared to current technology vehicles.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    17 The page is named “Der Superkaefer” which sure is the Superbeetle.

    You got even worse Mpg than the tables said. An imperial gallon is almost 1 liter more than the 3.875 lt US gallon. so 16 MPG. That is the very lowest end of what I get with the 320 Bluetec.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 I was a real lead foot as a 24 year old on those fun, twisty roads, with a 70 mpg speed limit.

  23. cwolf Says:

    IMO, Tesla Insurance Service is more directed at making buyers feel more comfortable with future repair costs than actually caring about THEM. It’s more about trying to meet sales quotas, attract more buyers and to keep those loyal to the brand.
    Insurance companies are profitable because of massive volume and infrastructure that Tesla Service just doesn’t have. Not only are they highly regulated, they must and keep a large sum in reserve. This has to be a loss for Tesla. The collateral required of Tesla could be better served elsewhere. Just my 2 cents

  24. Larry D. Says:

    22 And gas in 1970 must have been really dirt-cheap, with oil being at $2 a barrel before the 1st oil crisis.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    23 As we explained here many times, insurance companies are profitable because they are as crooked and unfair as can be, and have legal protection to do so.

    I cannot begin to list in how many ways they are unfair.

    It is sufficient to see how they charge 5 times the insurance a driver who owns 5 cars and drives a total of 15,000 miles a year, and one who owns one car and drives it the SAME 15,000 miles.

    I suggested that Tesla’s insurance arm would steal millions of customers from the legalized robbers at Geico and all these other clowns, by just being a LITTLE more fair, and charging the 5 car guy only 2 or 3 times what they charge the ONE car guy who does the same miles.

    As for myself, I believe in SELF insurance and Never get more than the legal minimum required.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 When I was in Scotland in the navy, I could get 20 gallons of cheap gas a month on the base, but after that, I was paying the local prices, which were probably about comparable to today’s prices in Europe. This site shows it as 80 pence/gallon, which was about the same as $.80 US at the time.

  27. cwolf Says:

    Tesla will sell their insurance to Tesla buyers, not to GM, Ford, ect. and I doubt there is anyone having 5 Tesla’s in their garage! There is not enough Teslas in California to insure and be profitable, or even close to break even. It’s like dealerships offering life time warranty’s; ITS A SALES GIMMIC!!!!

  28. Larry D. Says:

    26 An English guy I know who was in the Army and flew helicopters but has a really serious hobby about passenger ships and recently sold his vast collection of books on them on ebay (got some serious amounts, I did not think people would pay serious $ for books we get in the US at the library sale for $2 each and sometimes for $4 for a brown shopping bag full of them. He gave himself a retirement present of a new C class AMG diesel (forget the exact model) and is very pleased with it. In fact he prefers M-Bs than even his native RRs

  29. Larry D. Says:

    17 in yesterday’s show comments I suggested Tesla’s insurance arm insure ALL cars so it can take advantage of the crooked practices of the other insurers and lure millions of non-tesla and tesla owners away from them.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 This site:

    They decimalized the pound in 1971, thus the change of the chart for 1971.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    I had a student once whose family was in the insurance and re-insurance business but it was too long ago to remember much of his crash course on insurance he gave me. They were from the South (probably Charleston, SC) and he was driving a Jag XJ-S V12 at the time. (late 80s or early 90s)

  32. Bob Wilson Says:

    #25 – Having Tesla pay for repairs will give them a clue about their service problems. Hopefully, they’ll figure out that ‘right-to-repair’ could grow their service base substantially. There are independent service shops that could compliment their service stores, especially in non-Tesla states.

    1) Make the technical documents ‘free’ to owners. This allows us to better oversee repairs.
    2) Make read-only diagnostics available for owners. Perhaps something as simple as built-in menu options.
    3) Open-source diagnostics interfaces so 3d parties can offer diagnostic tools like EVTV.

  33. Larry D. Says:

    I drove the 50 mile round trip from the summer home to downtown today and on the way back there was a Cayman that was sure not hypermiling. It weaved and cut and changed lanes all the time in fairly heavy traffic, accelerating hard when it could. It looked fairly fast in a sea of far less powerful econoboxes and crossovers and little vans.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 Even the base Cayman is pretty quick, mid 4 second 0-60.

  35. Robley Melton, Jr. Says:

    John & Sean: How many 2018 Honda Clarity Plug-in Hybrids were built/sold before the vehicle was discontinued. In addition, I would guess that less than 1000 FCV (Fuel Cell Vehicles) Claritys were even manufactured for California (have no idea!). I have seen very view Claritys on the road – although I own one, which drives surprisingly well given its weight.

  36. Christopher b Gerhart Says:

    35 There is a Clarity plug-in hybrid at my condo. There is no place to charge it here, but she can charge it at the library, where she goes fairly often. I suspect it is mostly driven on gas, though, getting mediocre mpg.

  37. cwolf Says:

    Kit, there are collectors for all kinds of books.
    During the years I had an upholstery business (to pay for my schooling), I had accumulated upholstery interior swatch books from their beginning to abut the late 80′s. I may have doubled the purchase price on latter years, but I sold the whole lot of early years for almost $2000. Not only that, I purchased many yard of fabrics, like hounds tooth, because ,even then, they were hard to come by. I may have paid up to $12.50/yd. for many. Over time, I sold them all; Many fetched over +$150/yd.

  38. Christopher b Gerhart Says:

    37 I have some ’50s and ’60s car brochures, that would be worth a little, especially to people who have the cars involved. I haven’t tried to sell them, though. A few years ago, I sold about 40 years of Motor Trend to a guy who sells them, one at a time on Ebay. I could have gotten a lot more doing that, but didn’t want to mess with it.

  39. Kit Gerhart Says:

    37 I have some ’50s and ’60s car brochures, that would be worth a little, especially to people who have the cars involved. I haven’t tried to sell them, though. A few years ago, I sold about 40 years of Motor Trend to a guy who sells them, one at a time on Ebay. I could have gotten a lot more doing that, but didn’t want to mess with it.

  40. Al C Says:

    I still have 2 small card sized drawers of the little hot rod type books from the early 50′s. They are several different titles. The larger size ones went to recycling 4 years ago and will continue to be due no takers.


    37) I have a collection of car brochures too. I have a ton of Lamborghini brochures from old to recent. Been collecting them since I was a kid. Most I got from Lamborghini themselves by just writing to them asking for a brochure. As a kid it was very exciting to receive these brochures in the mail from Italy.

    I also have an EV1 press release in my collection that I really like. I just wrote to GM and it showed up in the mail as simple as that. It is a neat little booklet of information on the EV1.

    I am probably going to give them to the Gilmore Museum for their Automotive Library (if they need them).

  42. Kit Gerhart Says:

    39) I don’t have exotic brochures, mostly just American cars, except for a 1970 Mini Cooper S brochure.