AD #2991 – NIO Unveils eT7 Electric Sedan; Tesla Seeks China Design Chief; GM Reveals New Logo

January 11th, 2021 at 11:54am

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Runtime: 9:34

0:08 Tesla Looking For China Design Chief
0:54 Chip Shortage Forces Production Cuts
1:27 More Hyundai & Apple Partnership Details
3:10 NIO Unveils eT7 Electric Sedan
4:33 NHTSA Clears Tesla of Sudden Unintended Acceleration
5:22 Pandemic Ripped Huge Hole In U.S. Auto Industry
6:46 GM Reveals New Logo
7:27 Barra To Give CES Keynote Speech
7:49 BMW Introduces New iDrive System
8:38 Magna Shows Off Electric Truck

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29 Comments to “AD #2991 – NIO Unveils eT7 Electric Sedan; Tesla Seeks China Design Chief; GM Reveals New Logo”

  1. George Ricci Says:

    I give a thumbs down on the new GM logo.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    As one could say, the new GM logo (or should a say gm logo)looks simple, fresh and modern, the current GM logo looks Bold and exudes a strong confidence, even aggressiveness with its all cap letters. The lower case doesn’t at all give me the feeling of fresh and modern but that they are apologizing for their past and seem submissive and quiet. I don’t like it all and predict this will be a flash in the pan and quickly shelved about as quick as its rolled out.. Too bad a bunch of money will be spent to make this change no matter how long it lasts.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    The NIO is a nice looking vehicle and as they add more batteries to get more range I would expect less efficiency as that also adds more weight. So yeah bigger battery = longer range, Bigger batter is also heavier = less efficiency.
    Either way it will be interesting & scary to see how the build quality of these Chinese cars will be. If typical of many Chinese products I would expect sub-par materials and paints to be used and maybe not the attention to detail as other manufacturers. The scary part will be if they actually do produce a good quality product they could dominate the EV market even in the US and Elon should be concerned.

  4. Norm T Says:

    So Toyota Sudden Acceleration from 2009 has rear it’s head in 2021?

  5. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean; If it indeed was just a disgruntled short seller that started the acceleration fiasco then it seems Tesla would have a legal case to sue for damages. Any word on whether Tesla is pursuing such action? If not I hope they do, as false accusations like that do irreversible damage to not only Tesla but all EVs and should have some recourse.

  6. ChuckGrenci Says:

    So production cuts caused chip reduction and chip reduction caused production cuts; vicious spiral or merely a short term correction. Yep, just a blip.

    Gm’s new logo is similar enough that I don’t think it matters much either way.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 We’ll see how the NIO vehicles turn out, but things other than country of origin generally determine quality. A friend has a Chinese Buick Envision which has been reliable, and he is happy with the fit and finish, etc.

    Is this chip shortage for commodity ICs, or for proprietary devices that makers have removed from production?

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Regarding the gm logo, I don’t particularly like it, but will get used to it. Logos come and go. Even the Coca Cola script has changed over the years.

  9. Mac Says:

    The new GM logo (or should we say gm) looks almost cartoonish. Some might interpret that it projects a market follower image compared to a market leader one.

  10. Kevin A Says:

    Maybe gm should redo the brand logos as well. I’ve often wondered why the GMC logo doesn’t look more like a “branding iron” (pun intended) for a little more Texas vibe. Maybe connect the letters with a bar or add a bar above or below.

  11. Wim van Acker Says:

    @6 Agree with you. I am not aware of any GM product with the logo on it. Have never seen the logo in commercials, either. To me the logo seems irrelevant, past, current and future.

  12. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, it’s hard to believe that the ‘chip shortage’ has anything to do with production processes since chip production is highly automated. It seems much more likely that consumer goods markets are just more willing to pay higher prices, whereas car companies will not. A LOT of people I know used the pandemic as a excuse to upgrade to bigger, faster phones and laptops, without much regard to price.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    7 A Buick that is just built in China is far different than a Chinese company producing their own products. Buick has a long developed history and expectations/requirements that components have to meet or exceed in order to be used. Will NIO and others copy such requirements or establish their own lesser demanding specifications? Lots of cost can be cut out of a vehicle if the requirements for components to achieve long term testing and durability requirements. Meeting just the government required stuff is only part of the picture. GM, Ford, Toyota, FCA and others have developed specifications over many years for many reasons. Typically because they encountered failures and discovered where they needed to beef up a component. So I don’t expect new manufacturers like NIO to necessarily have the same build quality as a Buick that is just assembled in China.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 I agree that Buick and NIO are different, but as I said, time will tell. Initially, Tesla might be NIO’s target for build quality, and work their way up to Buick build quality. As far as tech, though, it looks like they are far behind Tesla, at least with the powertrain.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 I might have contributed to the chip shortage, buying a new laptop that I probably wouldn’t have bought, except that I am spending more time at home using such items. Also, schools are buying and subsidizing simple laptops, many of them Chromebooks, for remote schooling.

  16. 2doorit Says:

    The new General Motors logo reminds me of what you would shorten “got milk”? to if you were so inclined to not write it out, seems like the same font, but maybe it’s just me…..

  17. Eric Brunner Says:

    That sudden acceleration reminds me of our experience with my company Taurus Wagon. Can’t remember the year now but it was from the first year of the first generation Taurus. Had a fairly weak 3 litre V6 with automatic. My wife was driving it back from Toronto one early afternoon while I was working out of my home office. The car suddenly went to top revs and was suprisingly strong. She has to use both feet on the brake pedal to slow it down and get over from one of the far lanes of the six lane highway to the shoulder to stop. Had to put her foot under the accelerator to stop the revs. Pretty scary. Being a Canadian National Champion Slalom Driver she was able to think quickly and control the beast. Anyone else might have panicked and caused a serious accident on the crowded road. When she got home and had relaxed we looked over the car as best we could. I did spray some WD40 on what ever parts of the throttle cable that I could see. Next day I had to drive to our plant in Sarnia and tried everything along the way to duplicate the problem with and without the Cruise Control (that she had not been using). Could not replicate. Called our dealer and he said he had not heard of any problems. Funny thing though, a couple of months later, I got a letter from Ford of Canada asking me to bring the car in for a engine acceleration recall. All that was done was to lubricate the same throttle cable.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    For several years, GM was putting little square logos near the back of the front fenders. I had some cars with them, but they were so inconspicuous that I don’t even know what years they used them. Where do you even see a GM logo now? Do they have them somewhere on the front of dealerships? The logo must not matter much, it no one notices it anyway.

  19. Buzzerd Says:

    Suffice to say that BMW owners won’t be saying “efficiency be darned” , well probably most people wouldn’t either.

  20. Bob Wilson Says:

    The new GM logo suggests a Republican elephant. Since I buy cars based on mandatory and optional requirements, a logo/badge can be cute but has no other effect.

    As for NIO and other “PowerPoint” EVs but no hardware in the USA, there have been too many abuses like the legendary Nikola “Badger.” Having missed the TSLA stock increase by 10x, many non-engineering analysts are suckered in by these cute videos and presentations. A retired engineer, I have no sympathy for their losses.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 With that car, turning off the key or putting it in neutral should have stopped the “runaway,” but with today’s cars, with everything being electronic, a problem that could cause unintended acceleration would most likely be with electronics, and the same glitch might make it impossible to turn off the engine or take it out of gear.

  22. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    About the new GM logo, until you mentioned that it looked like an elephant, I didn’t see it that way. Now it’s all I see.

  23. cwolf Says:

    I read somewhere when the US auto manufacturer’s sales plummeted, they told the chip makers to cut back without much notice. So the chip manufactures did the natural thing, and that is find new buyers and they did! So now, auto manufactures are in need of more chips. Don’t feel sorry for them one bit!

  24. cwolf Says:

    I don’t get it! What is the importance of reporting on a Chinese car that is only sold in China? Most likely, these people stole or copied most of their technology and now there are sights like this that seems to encourage the thought of owning a goverment backed Chinese vehicle is acceptable. It’s one thing to inform us of what is transpiring in the EV world, it’s another to give Chinese products more print and sense of acceptance than is deserved.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 From the start of the show, “This is Autoline Daily, the show dedicated to enthusiasts of the global automotive industry.” I find it interesting to know some of what’s going on in the world’s largest car market, though I wouldn’t buy a NIO, even if they were sold in the U.S.

    They must not have done a very good job of copying, given the poor efficiency compared to most other BEVs.

  26. WineGeek Says:

    The GM logo is uuuugly

  27. Lambo2015 Says:

    17-21 I too experienced a stuck throttle cable back in the late 80s which was remedied with a quick slap of the gas pedal. It was on a manual transmission car so that 1st to 2nd shift included a redline and some screeching tires and almost a donut. After slapping the pedal the car returned to idle and I also had to use a little WD40.
    Todays cars with electronic gas pedals send a signal to a throttle control valve and actually have quite a few fail safe features to prevent unintended acceleration. 1)The gas pedal typically has at least (3) potentiometers which all have to match signal insuring the proper pedal position is being detected. (2)The throttle is returned to idle or at least a position that cannot over-power the brakes when the brake is depressed. (3)many systems take input from wheel position sensors and will also reduce input if tire slippage/traction is detected. (4) Most systems use a smart throttle motor. If the throttle motor detects voltage or signals that didn’t come from the engine control module, it’s designed to shut the engine down. (5)If the ECM sees any signal that does not correlate from the multiple sensors it returns the engine to idle.

    So there are a good number of fail safe features with electronic throttles but that’s an electronic system controlling a mechanical device. How that will transfer to EVs I’m not familiar with those systems. Also as you mentioned Kit of just turning the car off would seem simple but with push button start systems if you really have an electronic system failure that may not work.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 With my 2010 MINI, holding the start/stop button for three seconds would shut off the engine when the car is moving. I don’t know about the Corvette. I’m guessing that a short press would not stop the engine when moving.

  29. Sean Wagner Says:

    I’m still pining for the ducks in Cadillac’s logo. Enough said.

    24 & 25 – The Chinese market and its participants are worth examining closely.

    With upwards of 20 million vehicles sold and a clear intent to leap ahead in the transition of motive forces, ignorance really just isn’t advised. The big German manufacturers have made oodles of money in China, after all, and gm isn’t faring so badly either.

    Also, from what I’ve heard, domestic makes have fallen further behind in perceived attractiveness.

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