AD #3011 – Tacoma TRD Impressions; Hyundai/Kia Deny Apple Partnership; Passenger Car Sales Continue To Tumble

February 8th, 2021 at 11:58am

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Runtime: 9:32

0:08 Hyundai & Kia Deny Apple Partnership
0:50 Chip Shortage Getting Worse
1:41 Porsche Plans To Build Cars In Malaysia
3:49 Ford Introduces New Transit Variant For Europe
4:42 ZF Creates Hybrid Powertrain For Boats
5:30 Rolls-Royce Spirit Of Ecstasy Celebrates 110th Anniversary
6:39 Passenger Car Sales Continue To Tumble
7:11 Toyota Tacoma TRD Impressions

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35 Comments to “AD #3011 – Tacoma TRD Impressions; Hyundai/Kia Deny Apple Partnership; Passenger Car Sales Continue To Tumble”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    So 8 inch wafers are the new vacuum tubes, processed only in China. When I retired from former Delco Electronics, we had just started processing “big” 5 inch wafers, and were still doing some 3 inch.

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    ‘So yeah, my new 12 million dollar yacht is green; no kidding, it’s got a hybrid.’ Not!

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I don’t see how a hybrid powertrain would buy you much with a boat. The reason hybrid powertrains can almost double city mpg of a car, is the use of regenerative braking, something that would not apply, or in only a very small way with boats.

  4. Buzzerd Says:

    Watching one of the advertisements got me thinking that there aren’t to many successful companies in the world that don’t advertise, Costco is one that comes to mind. Rolls, Ferrari are others but another would be Tesla. Tesla has great brand recognition even though they don’t advertise, at least not that I’ve seen.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    If they can just make something so the yachts don’t dump there gray water tanks into the water that would probably be a bigger improvement .

  6. Dave Says:

    Don’t know why but BC Ferries has a few hybrid ferries , one in our city being tested here as I type [Nanaimo] Plus an all electric up island

  7. Kevin A Says:

    Kit, Another benefit of hybrid powertrains is that the car doesn’t use any energy when not moving in traffic. Maybe the advantage in a boat is that you don’t have to run the engines when anchored to provide power for electrical accessories. Hybrid sized batteries might also let you have solar panels or small wind turbines. For something like a ferry, with a fixed route, you could use the car unloading and loading time to charge the batteries and use the engines only when the batteries get low.

  8. XA351GT Says:

    I can tell you when car sales will stop falling.When the price of gas heads over $3.50 on it’s way to $4.00 again.It’s already rose 30-40 cents in SE PA. When it gets over 3.00 and it’s close now you will see all the owners of big pick ups and SUVs start crying in their beer again.

  9. cwolf Says:

    Car sales will pick up once Winter is over. IMO, sedan sales are lacking maybe because there are not many desirable model left!

  10. cwolf Says:

    Car sales will pick up once Winter is over. IMO, sedan sales are lacking maybe because there are not many desirable model left!

  11. cwolf Says:

    Car sales will pick up once Winter is over. IMO, sedan sales are lacking maybe because there are not many desirable model left!

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 I just read about a hybrid sightseeing boat in San Francisco that can run for an hour at low speed on battery power, pleasant for the tourists, and, overall, saving fuel. The batteries can be charged by the engines when they are running, and from shore power.

    When sitting still with the A/C on, the engine in my Camry hybrid probably runs no more than 10% of the time, to keep the battery charged. If you wanted heat when standing still, the engine would run a lot more, but I don’t do that.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 There are some desirable sedans left, if you just want basic, efficient transportation. I have one, a Camry hybrid. The Accord is also a good one. It seems that if you want “excitement” in a sedan, it isn’t cheap, as with the Cadillac Blackwings, BMW Ms, and the Mercedes AMGs.

    Something almost completely missing from the US market is wagons, which drive and get mpg like sedans, but are much better for transporting stuff.

  14. GM Veteran Says:

    Sean, in the Ford Transit article you mentioned the Transit powertrain drives the front wheels. I thought the Transit was rear wheel drive, with AWD being added as an option last year. Is that correct?

  15. GM Veteran Says:

    Hybrid powertrains are rapidly being developed and deployed for everything from pleasure boats to ocean freighters. Ferries seem to be the hottest segment for this innovation. Most of the development and production so far has been in Europe where they are much more serious about the water and air pollution caused by ships and boats. Lately, I have have seen several articles on fuel cell integration in large ships. Its an exciting time of innovation, much like the period when coal burning ships were phased out in favor of diesel.

  16. Drew Says:

    @14 – In Europe, Transits come in either FWD or RWD configurations. The FWD configurations are the lighter duty variants, with the benefit of a lower load floor. The RWD variants have heavier payload capabilities… and these are the Transits we see in NA. It may help if you think about these two Transits like you think about F-150 and F-SuperDuty.

    In Europe, Fiat seems a competitor to the FWD Transit… which is also sold in NA as the FWD Ram Promaster.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Oil mostly replaced coal for ships in the early 1900s, though both were steam, some reciprocating, some turbine, and some both. The battleship Arizona, built in about 1915 was an oil burner, but the New York, built about 4 years earlier used coal. Nearly all non-nuclear powered ships now use diesel engines, rather than steam turbines. I’ve wondered if huge diesels are more efficient than steam turbines, or if they are used because they are lower maintenance and/or need smaller crews to operate.

    16 There are a lot more Transits sold in the US than Promasters, but if your load is fairly light, Promasters have a big convenience advantage with the lower load floor. I guess too few people care about that for Ford to sell FWD Transit in the US.

  18. Henry Leach Says:

    Gee, would it be possible to drive a boat with wind power?

  19. MJB Says:

    The yacht hybrid setup sounds great in theory, but as anyone who owns any watercraft in excess of about 40′, annual maintenance (plus crew salaries, insurance, registrations) averages 10% of the purchase price (new). And even the newest, most expensive yacht will have an engine room that needs constant attention, because there’s just a lot (compared to the reliability of most cars) that can/does go wrong on the high seas. And this is with their normal ICE setups.

    Now add another complicated component to that and it multiplies the likelihood of failure.

    As ironic as it may sound, I honestly think full electric would be the best solution for boating. Far fewer parts to keep running right. And any boater would say ‘amen’ to that.

  20. MJB Says:

    19… Best solution for “power boating”, that is.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 What a concept!

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 Electric would be good, if you never want to go very far. Pleasure boats are not very efficient, using 5-6 gallons of gas per hour to go maybe 20 mph. A mid-size car will use 2-3 gallons/hour to go 80 mph. A rough calculation would be that an 18 foot runabout would go about 2 hours at cruising speed with a 100 kWh battery, like a current Tesla Model S.

  23. Lambo2015 Says:

    I’m a bit confused on the chip shortage and how its tied to wafer size. My understanding is those wafers are clipped into the very small micro chips from the wafer. So regardless if they are produced on a 8″ wafer or a 4″ wafer the chip size is the same, is it not?
    Must be a lot more to it than wafer size and I get how technology is moving faster than they can adopt it and prove it out. Much like laptops 10 years ago that were obsolete within a year of buying them. The better models were out before your warranty even expired.

  24. cwolf Says:

    Kit, my 23 ft boat uses about 1.5 hal/hr cruising at 27 mph. When I troll at idle, I use less than .5 gal/hr. Not too bad.

  25. cwolf Says:

    if I read the piece correctly, chips are updated fasted than the validation process. Seems to me it is the process that is the problem!

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 That’s pretty good. A couple articles I ran across talked about 5-6 gallons/hour at cruise.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23,25 It sounds like many chips for the auto industry are made on 8 inch wafers, and when demand dropped, a number of 8 inch fabs shut down, some being moved to different countries. It takes a while to set up and get re-started.

    I don’t know if this is happening, but if companies are switching to making the auto chips on larger wafers, there would be re-validation with the new mask sets, etc., which would take some time.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 This is one of the articles I ran across. Others had similar numbers.

    https://www.godownsize.com/how-much-gas-do-boats-use/

  29. cwolf Says:

    My Father-in law’s 29ft Tiera uses about 5gal/hr at 27mph, but it has twin 454′s

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 That doesn’t sound right, when one 380 cubic inch V8 barely above idle moving a Corvette at highway speed uses about 2.5 gallons/hour. Or do you mean each engine in the boat uses 5 gph?

  31. cwolf Says:

    You are sharp Kit!
    I checked the log book:
    The 5gph was at 5mph
    At 27mph (3000 rpm) fuel comsumption averages is about 20 gph.

    Now you know why I bought a smaller boat!

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31 Thanks. Yeah, that’s more as I would expect.

  33. cwolf Says:

    32) I don’t know why I had that number in my head; It sure is far off from the log book.
    This mistake from memory reminds me of what”Joe Friday” from Dragnet always said:’ Just the facts, ma’am. Just the facts!”

  34. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sounds like 1 gal per mile per hour is pretty close to rule of thumb.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34. Yeah, boats aren’t very efficient, except huge ones not going very fast. Big cargo ships are very efficient on a fuel/ton-mile basis.