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Runtime: 9:27
0:00 VW In Talks with SAIC Over China Plant
1:06 BYD To Build Plant in Mexico
1:43 BYD To Sell Pickups in Australia
2:15 Sony & Honda To Launch 3 Models By 2030
3:13 California Rejects Stellantis Bid to Overturn Emissions Deal
4:18 Former VW CEO Winterkorn Denies Involvement in Diesel Scandal
5:10 Great Wall Targets Rolls-Royce
5:50 Ford Launches Race-Inspired Commercial Vehicles in EU
6:34 Forvia Replaces Fuse Box with Electronic Controls
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VW IN TALKS WITH SAIC OVER CHINA PLANT
Volkswagen may be forced to leave a region of China. It operates a plant in the country’s Xinjiang province with its joint venture partner SAIC. A local minority group, called the Uyghurs, say they have been put into forced labor, among other right’s violations, including to build a test track near the plant. VW hired a German audit firm to look into the accusations and at first said it found no evidence of forced labor. But soon after 6 executives from the audit firm said they had nothing to do with the report and did not support it. And now Handelsblatt reports that another independent researcher says they did find evidence of forced labor at the site, including documents and pictures to back it up. So, now Volkswagen says it’s in talks with SAIC over its future involvement at the plant. But it’s hard to see how it can carry on.
BYD TO BUILD PLANT IN MEXICO
BYD is on a tear expanding outside of China. Yesterday we reported it’s exporting its most-popular EV in China, the Seagull, to South America, where it will be called the Dolphin Mini. And now Nikkei reports that BYD will build a plant in Mexico. It’s already kicked off negotiations with officials and is looking for a site to build the factory. The company is spending $620 million to build a new industrial complex in Brazil as well, but no doubt a Chinese automaker setting up shop just south of the U.S. border will raise a number of eyebrows.
BYD TO SELL PICKUPS IN AUSTRALIA
BYD could also have its eye on popular pickup truck markets. Back in October it filed patent pictures for a new pickup and now spy shots of prototypes are starting to pop up in China. CarNewsChina reports it will likely be offered in RHD and sold in Australia before the end of the year, possibly followed by South Africa. It looks to be either a mid- or full-size truck and it’s expected to be offered as both a plug-in hybrid and pure-electric vehicle.
SONY & HONDA TO LAUNCH 3 MODELS BY 2030
Sony and Honda’s joint venture will launch three models before the end of the decade, according to Nikkei. Sony Honda Mobility previously announced that it will start delivering a sedan under its Afeela brand name in North America in early 2026. And now the reports say it will also launch an SUV the following year in 2027 and a compact vehicle in 2028 or later. The Afeela sedan is said to use Qualcomm’s Snapdragon platform to run its infotainment system and enable up to Level 3 autonomous driving in some conditions. Production is expected to be somewhere in North America.
CALIFORNIA REJECTS STELLANTIS BID TO OVERTURN EMISSIONS DEAL
The California Office of Administrative Law rejected a petition from Stellantis to overturn an emissions deal the California Air Resources Board or CARB made with other automakers. The agency said the automaker can file a lawsuit or take the matter up with CARB instead. Stellantis filed the petition in December because it claimed the deal favored its competitors and put it at a competitive disadvantage. In 2019, CARB made separate voluntary agreements with Ford, BMW, Volkswagen, Honda and later Volvo to reduce emissions. Stellantis says those automakers only have to meet standards based on national sales, while it and other automakers have to follow rules based on sales in the 14 states that adopted California’s vehicle emission standards. Because of that Stellantis says it has limited shipments of some ICE models to those states in order to comply with the rules, which is where it says disadvantage comes from.
FORMER VW CEO WINTERKORN DENIES INVOLVEMENT IN DIESEL SCANDAL
Former Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn is still claiming he had no involvement in the company’s diesel emission cheating scandal. Winterkorn, 76, testified in a German court earlier today, as part of a 9-billion-euro investor lawsuit, that claimed he did not inform financial markets in a timely manner about the diesel defeat devices. Winterkorn says he didn’t find out about the cheating until later and that he was not given all the details. He said if he had all the info he would “not have hesitated to take the right steps” and that he “would have traveled to the U.S.A. myself to negotiate with authorities.” This was the first time Winterkorn appeared in court for his role in the cheating, which cost him his job as CEO eight years ago.
GREAT WALL TARGETS ROLLS-ROYCE
Chinese automakers sure are ambitious. They’re not afraid to tackle any segment in the market. And now, Great Wall Motors, which has specialized in affordable SUVs, is going right after Rolls-Royce and Bentley. It’s coming out with a 4-door limousine later this year, with a long hood, chopped greenhouse, and short trunk. And it’s working on an SUV that will compete with the Rolls-Royce Cullinan. Both vehicles will be NEVs, but it’s unclear if they will be BEVs or PHEVs or both. Ward’s reports that Great Wall sold over 1.2 million vehicles last year in 60 markets around the world.
FORD LAUNCHES RACE-INSPIRED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN EU
The commercial version of any model is usually the ugliest, most boring example the automaker has to offer. Often coming with steel wheels, panel sides and extended roofs. But Ford doesn’t think it has to be that way. In Europe, Ford Pro is expanding its MS-RT trim line to the commercial versions of the Transit Custom and Ranger. They come with bigger, more stylish wheels, design elements, like the lower air intakes, that you might expect to see on sportier models and better-looking interior materials. The Transit Custom also features bright paint colors and even a spoiler on the back. Ford says both models can be ordered now and deliveries kick off in the middle of the year.
FORVIA REPLACES FUSE BOX WITH ELECTRONIC CONTROLS
Automakers are working on new ways to simplify their electric and electronic architectures in cars. Whether it’s zonal computing, edge computing, 48 volts, or Ethernet connections, they’re all working on it. Now Forvia has come up with a way of eliminating the fuse box in a vehicle and replacing it with electronic controls. Ben Cohen, the VP of Strategy, Sales and Marketing, told us what it’s all about.
(The Foriva interview is only available in the video version of today’s show.)
By the way, Ben Cohen says they’re working with an OEM to develop this approach and that we’re going to see it on cars very soon.
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GM Veteran says
I hope the next two models have more inspiring styling than the first Afeela model they have shown. Nothing interesting about it, in my opinion. Also, the concept of Honda making a car with Sony electronics reminds me of another Honda joint venture with Rover that resulted in a 1987 car called the Sterling 827. It was supposed to be the best of both worlds. Honda engineering and build quality with an interior of English Connolly leather and burled walnut trim. With slightly different sheet metal and a less fancy interior, the same car was sold as the Acura Legend. However, the Sterling included some other British bits that proved rather adept at keeping these cars in the shop and limiting its US sales to just two model years. Hopefully, the Sony collaboration will have a better final product.
GM Veteran says
I have some doubts about how successful the fancied-up Ford commercial vehicles will be. They certainly look better, but there is a reason this is not typically done. The finance people that make the buying decisions won’t vote for those extra cost bits. The marketing and sales folks will have to convince upper management that somehow those better looking vehicles will translate into more product sales or an elevation of their brand in order to get the green light to add them to their fleet.
Lambo2015 says
Forvia Replaces Fuse Box with Electronic Controls, now that’s a cool idea. However, he didn’t mention what happens when a system fails, or a short circuit is created that would normally blow a fuse? He made it sound like it would be like a breaker that you just reset but it looked solid-state without any switches to reset anything.
Kit Gerhart says
American businesses spend thousands extra for wraps on commercial vans, so maybe European businesses will buy the Ford stuff.
The Great Wall ultra luxury sedan must be for CCP officials, and CEOs of Chinese businesses. I can’t imagine many Brits, Americans, or Germans buying a Chinese car over a Rolls-Royce, Bentley, or Maybach, if buying in that market.
Wim van Acker says
@GM Veteran on nicer vans. Especially in the higher personal income tax countries in Western Europe commercial vehicles that can be purchased as company vehicles yet are presentable when used during time off-work are in high demand by many small business owners.
Albemarle says
The Forvia Fuse Box will not be an asset for 10 year old vehicles in the salt and rust belt. It’s difficult enough now to keep the greenies from growing at connectors and simple fuses. The solution may simply be replacement of the entire box and all the external connectors I’m sure that a Forvia Fuse Box will be a lot more expensive and time consuming to change.
Albemarle says
I do not understand what would make Great Wall think it could pivot from mid market and economy cars to the top end of luxury. A Lincoln or Cadillac would be a stretch goal for them.
Merv says
Forvia-that is some pretty cool tech. Repair your car,before it breaks down and leaves you stranded .
Kit Gerhart says
Albemarle, might Chinese govt. officials or business barons want Chinese ultra luxury cars? Other than that, I don’t see it. Maybe Putin or Kim Jong-un would want one, but maybe they would rather have a Rolls.
ChuckGrenci says
Makes sense to have one set of ‘bodies’ instead of one commercial, one consumer. The new Ford van looks a lot nicer than some, and economies of scale, seem appropriate for this application. Money could still be saved with ‘steelies’ (wheels) and just less interior content for the commercial application (unless desired).
The new whiz-bang ‘fuse’ controller is fine until a module (that module) fails; I don’t think its replacement is going to be cheap or even reasonably cheap to replace. Even replacing a corroded fuse block gets expensive really quickly.
Lambo2015 says
I havent had to replace a fuse in a very long time. In fact, as I thought more about it, I think the last time was about 14 years ago I was trying to use a power inverter on a Ford Econoline van during a camping trip and blew the aux fuse. Simple fix but fuses just don’t blow like they used to. Before that I think I blew a fuse in my 1998 truck when I connected to a trailer harness that had a short. Adding an inline fuse to the trailer connection can prevent that.
Kit Gerhart says
I think the last time I replaced a car fuse was 35-40 years ago when I pinched a wire on a trailer, shorting it to ground. Fuses are fine with me. The current fuses seem less likely to have bad connections after years, than the glass tubular ones of the past.
Buzzerd says
Last fuse I replaced in automotive would be for an electric jacket on a motorcycle. Doesn’t happen much. Yes we replaced fuses with breakers in our house but not because they are better but because they are more convenient. Fuses always work, breakers almost always work.
Imagine that – a car company with a pretty shady past is doing work in a country with terrible human rights violations is found to be doing sketchy business- hard to believe