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Runtime: 11:11
0:00 Two Chinese OEMs Adopt DeepSeek AI
1:16 BYD Challenges Tesla FSD
1:53 Xpeng To Make Its Own Chips
2:56 Trump Axes NEVI Program
4:57 Tesla Adds $5,000 To Model X Price
5:23 Tesla China Sales Down in January
5:46 Mazda’s Net Profit Drops 45%
6:50 Porsche Adds More ICE Cars to Lineup
7:39 Lear To Lay Off 15,0000
8:21 Linamar Sells Gigacasting Factory
8:54 Alpine A110 Muscles Up
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TWO CHINESE OEMS ADOPT DEEPSEEK AI
We start out today in China where it’s investing in three significant technologies that could make its auto industry even more competitive than it already is. Barely two weeks ago, DeepSeek, a Chinese startup in generative AI stunned the tech world with a genAI program that is far cheaper to operate than Open AI’s Chat GPT and it runs on lower tech chips. And yesterday two Chinese automakers announced they’re already integrating DeepSeek AI into their cars. Dongfeng says it will be the first automaker in the world to use DeepSeek’s AI in an SUV called the Courage that’s part of its Voyah brand. One week from today, owners will be able to add it to their cars via an over-the-air update. Dongfeng says it will make its smart cockpit experience to be the best in the industry. Geely is also going to use DeepSeek in an effort to redefine the interface between humans and computers in its cars. And it is stunning to see how fast these two Chinese automakers have moved to integrate DeepSeek into their vehicles.
BYD CHALLENGES TESLA FSD
And BYD is in a race to see who will achieve true autonomy first. BYD’s shares jumped 21% to its highest level since 2020 because investors are enthusiastic over its smart-driving technology. The automaker is expected to detail progress about its autonomous system and other intelligent features for its low-cost cars at an event on Monday. Automakers in China are investing heavily into developing assisted driving features because it’s becoming a major selling point for customers and a differentiator for some brands
XPENG TO MAKE ITS OWN CHIPS
The CEO of Chinese automaker XPeng believes that autonomous driving will transform the Chinese auto industry over the next five years in the same way that NEVs have transformed the market. He says more buyers are putting AV features in their top 3 reasons for purchasing a new EV. So, XPeng is going to invest an additional $1.3 billion into its R&D activities, nearly half of which will go towards AI projects. It also plans to start mass producing its own in-house developed computer chips this year, which XPeng claims has more capability than NVIDIA or Tesla FSD chips. And these moves are what will allow it to expand its autonomous driving system that’s called XPILOT. All of its models have Level 2 capability and it says it will launch a Level 3 version in the second half of this year. And on top of AVs, XPeng plans to use its chips and software tech in VTOLs and humanoid robots.
TRUMP AXES NEVI PROGRAM
The Trump Administration just dealt a big blow to EV advocates. The Federal Highway Administration is ordering all states to suspend all EV charging infrastructure spending under the $5 billion National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure or NEVI program. The Biden Administration already approved state funding through the first four years of the five-year plan. But not all of that money has been spent and the Federal Highway Administration is now telling states they can’t use funds for new projects. However, funds that were already committed won’t be affected. The NEVI program was approved by Congress and it likely can’t be wiped away by a single memo from the Federal Highway Administration. So, this will probably come down to court battles, which will cause more delays in the EV charging infrastructure.
TESLA ADDS $5,000 TO MODEL X PRICE
Tesla raised the price of the Model X in the U.S. by $5,000. The all-wheel drive version now costs $84,990 and the Plaid model now starts at $94,990. Tesla also raised the price of the Model S by $5,000 in December. The company didn’t reveal why it raised prices but we wonder if it’s because Tesla doesn’t feel like sales will be hurt by the price increase.
TESLA CHINA SALES DOWN IN JANUARY
And in other Tesla news, sales of the automaker’s China-made vehicles fell 11.5% last month to just over 63,000 units compared to a year ago and they were down 32% from December. But that drop could be attributed to the Chinese New Year holiday in January, which also led to a drop in sales for other EV makers.
MAZDA’S NET PROFIT DROPS 45%
Mazda reported its results for the first nine months of its current fiscal year and sales were down in pretty much every major market in the world, but thanks to a strong surge in North America it was actually up overall. The company sold 966,000 vehicles worldwide, which was up by 4%. Those sales brought in just over $24 billion in revenue, up 3%. But due to increased material and logistics costs as well as higher incentive spending, Mazda’s operating income was down 26% and its net income dropped by 45%. The company plans to reel in those incentives for the rest of the fiscal year, which have averaged over $3,000 and that will also contribute to an overall goal of cutting more than $635 million in expenses. For the full year, Mazda expects to sell about 1.33 million vehicles worldwide, which would be an increase of about 7%.
PORSCHE ADDS MORE ICE CARS TO LINEUP
Porsche has been on a tear for nearly 30 years, but it’s stumbled badly when it comes to electric vehicles. Part of the problem is that it over invested in electric models that haven’t sold very well. The company’s profit margin of 10% is half of what it was just a few years ago, and its market cap has been cut in half to €50 billion. To try and turn things around it wants to get rid of its CFO and head of sales. It’s also going to spend €800 million this year to add more ICE and PHEV cars to its lineup. And the German media is speculating that Oliver Blume, who runs both Porsche and the Volkswagen Group, will probably have to give up his CEO position at Porsche to concentrate full time on trying to save VW.
LEAR TO LAY OFF 15,0000
But if you think automakers have it tough, you should see what’s going on in the supplier industry. Lear Corporation, the giant seat manufacturer, is going to lay off around 15,000 employees this year. Keep in mind that last year Lear laid off 15,000 people. It also closed 13 factories and will close another 5 this year. The problem is that new car sales are not growing in most markets around the world. And costs continue to rise. Lear also won major contracts for EV programs that were delayed or cancelled outright. So it’s going to invest heavily in automation and robots to make its plants more efficient.
LINAMAR SELLS GIGACASTING FACTORY
Talk about betting big on EV programs that failed to happen, Linamar, the Canadian supplier is selling a factory it built last year to make gigacastings. The 300,000-square foot plant was going to have three giant casting machines to make large parts for an unknown EV program and it was supposed to start operating this month. Instead, Linamar has the plant up for sale, and it’s yet another casualty of EV investments that have failed to pay off.
ALPINE A110 MUSCLES UP
Ahead of the all-electric version that’s supposed to launch late this year, Alpine set out to create the ultimate road-going version of A110 and came up with this, the A110 R Ultime. Its chassis is made entirely from aluminum to save weight, it gets wider wheels and tires, the braking system was improved, aerodynamic tweaks added 160 kilograms or about 350 pounds of downforce, forged pistons and connecting rods as well as turbo optimization boosts engine output to 345 horsepower and it’s all fed through a new 6-speed DCT. The A110 R Ultime will do 0-100 km/h in 3.8 seconds and it laps the Nurburgring 20 seconds faster than the A110 R. But Alpine is only building 110 examples.
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Does “Porsche Adds More ICE Cars to Lineup” mean there will be a next generation ICE Boxster/Cayman, or that they will keep making the current ones longer than planned? I suppose it’s likely that all of the “added cars” will be SUVs.
“TRUMP AXES NEVI PROGRAM”: No, the program was not “axed”. The program was suspended and of the $5 billion allocated over $3 billion has already been disbursed and won’t be affected by the suspension. BTW, the U.S. Government is $36 trillion in debt (one trillion=one thousand billion) so some of us might not consider this suspension to be a negative development.
I wonder if the premium tag fees for EVs has just lost justification with suspension of NEVI?
Hey if EVs are a better product the demand will continue to grow with or without gov influence via incentives.
One thing for sure is all those companies that claimed they had no further IC engines in development are wishing they would have not placed all their eggs in the EV basket now. Weird how they all have to rethink their product lineups when a product isn’t being forced onto the public. Allowing people to buy the vehicles they want will create some real shifts this year in the product development and production requirements. All that wasted money partnering up and jockeying for position with battery manufacturers only to have it likely mean not much of anything. Toyota caught so much crap for not going whole hog and likely saved millions.
@Lambo on EVs: correct if you look at the U.S. market. The U.S. 1.3 million EV sales are small compared to the world total of 17 million, though.
It looks like 33 states charge extra to register an EV, and many of those charges are more than an average vehicle driven an average number of miles would pay in gas tax.
As far as new IC engines being developed, is there much improvement to be made? I was surprised that GM is developing a 6th generation small block V8. Can it be much better than the 5th generation? I don’t know when it is to go into production, but I think trucks and Corvettes are still using 5th generation.
Some of the newer engines seem to be downgrades. An example is the Lexus RX which replaced a V6 with a turbo 4. The new one gets a little better mpg, but fuel cost is higher, if you use the “required” premium, and the 4 has worse NVH, not what you want in a near-luxury vehicle.
Lambo, will “Allowing people to buy the vehicles they want,” as you describe rolling back emissions standards and removing some EV incentives, result in the availability of what I’d like to buy, a Camry hybrid station wagon? I doubt it. We will be able to buy what we had before, a choice of about 300 SUVs/CUVs, a few sedans, some pickup trucks, a handful of sports cars and coupes, and no real station wagons, except maybe one Volvo, but with mandatory AWD.
I’m seeing a lot of ads for the Mazda CX50 hybrid on outlook mail and facebook. All I use facebook for is groups, mostly car and audio related, and the Mazda ads appear.
Kit,
Where I live the EV Fee is $155. If one was to drive a vehicle 10,000 miles per year and has a car which gets 30MPG, they would pay $160. Some would pay less and some more depending on what they drive. 10K per year is considered ultra low mileage for most people. The national average driven per year for an individual is 14K miles per year in which they would pay $224 per year. So the EV drivers are getting a good deal here. They still complain about it though. Of course the more EVs there are, the more that fee is going to go up dramatically once all the ICE trucks and SUVs are no longer subsidizing the road maintenance for the EVs. The one thing government has proven to be when it comes to taxes, they are not charitable organizations. They will get their budget money and more out of EV owners as that market expands.
“The program was suspended and of the $5 billion allocated over $3 billion has already been disbursed and won’t be affected by the suspension.”
And it is well known that $3 billion has resulted in 8 whole chargers being built after 2 years . This level of incompetence and potential fraud is why people are fed up and why such programs enrage people.
Meanwhile Ukraine says they only received $70 billion of the $200 billion that Biden sent them. Less than half. Where’d the rest go? Where’s the accountability? $130 billion into thin air that could have built tens of chargers here in the US. It’s insane.
The EV surcharges are a windfall for the states that have them. They are keeping all of the money, not making up any lost federal gas tax. If/when EVs make up a lot of the fleet, a system will be needed to tax by the mile, with higher rates for heavier vehicles.
I do not see EV Fees as a windfall when they are using the roads and paying less than an ICE user is paying for the same usage. If they bought an EV and just let it sit, then sure that is a windfall. Who would buy an EV just to let it sit though?
Daily Driver,
This statement is not accurate
“And it is well known that $3 billion has resulted in 8 whole chargers being built after 2 years . This level of incompetence and potential fraud is why people are fed up and why such programs enrage people.”
I can’t be sure where you source this information. But, as of the time that Mr Trump made this statement on the Joe Rogan podcast the actual number was 69. And those 69 cost a fraction of the total.
As you are probably aware there is allot of permitting and lead times to build out this infrastructure. So we can understand how it may be difficult to understand the cost per charger at this early stage as things are in process. But it doesn’t look like an attempt was made here!
I’m now a legal resident of Florida, which has no EV surcharge, but if my cars were registered in Indiana, there would be a $442/year surcharge for two cars. My ~55 mpg Prius and ~35 mpg Highlander hybrid would be paying about $150/year in gas tax, with the amount I drive, even including the federal gas tax. The EV surcharge in Indiana is highly punitive against EVs for people who would otherwise drive efficient gas or hybrid cars.