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AD #4089 – BYD #3 Globally by Market Cap; U.S. Smuggles in Chinese Minerals; AV Race Car Smashes Track Record

July 9, 2025 by sean

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0:00 U.S. Smuggles in Chinese Minerals
1:11 BYD #3 Globally by Market Cap
1:59 China Loves Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”
2:35 Ford Still Qualifies for U.S. Battery Subsidies
3:16 Teens Can Rent Waymo AVs
3:58 Baidu Rents AVs By the Week
4:26 AV Race Car Smashes Track Record
6:27 Rivian Launches Gen-2 Quad Motor
7:16 Rivian Spin-Off Valued At $1B
7:37 U.S. Used Car Prices Climbing 
8:36 VW AG Ekes Out Global Q2 Sales Gain
9:22 Bentley Reveals Jag-Like EV Concept

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U.S. SMUGGLES IN CHINESE MINERALS
U.S. buyers of critical minerals have figured out how to get around to China’s crackdown on supplies. After the U.S. restricted Chinese access to semiconductors last year, China retaliated by banning exports of antimony, a metal that’s used in batteries and chips, as well as gallium and germanium, which are used in telecommunications, chips and military technology. But imports of those minerals have surged in the U.S. and they’re on pace to equal or exceed the levels before the ban. That’s because shipments are being re-routed via third countries, specifically Thailand and Mexico. Reuters reports that the workaround involves a buying agent in China who gets minerals from producers, then a shipping company routes them, relabeled as iron, zinc or art supplies, via another Asian country. China is aware of the practice and in May it implemented penalties, fines, bans and even jail time to try and stop it.

BYD #3 GLOBALLY BY MARKET CAP
Tesla seems to be getting hit by one wave of bad news after another. Sales are falling, profits are dropping, Elon and President Trump are throwing hands on social media, and yet, despite all of that, Tesla is still worth more than every other car company put together. We’ve got a comparison here of the top 22 publicly-traded automakers in the world, based on their market capitalization, as of the close of market yesterday. And there’s some real shockers in there. Look at BYD, which is third on the list. And notice how Li Auto is worth nearly as much as Stellantis. It’s also kind of shocking to see that Rivian is worth more than Renault. But Tesla is still worth more than all of them put together.

OEM Mkt Cap Billions
Tesla $943
Toyota $271
BYD $141
VW AG $59
M-B $57
Honda $53
GM $50
BMW $49
Ford $47
Hyundai $39
Stellantis $30
Li Auto $29
Geely $21
Rivian $16
Renault $14
Subaru $12
Nissan $8
NIO $7
Lucid $7
Mazda $4
Total $1,855
Total w/o Tesla $912

CHINA LOVES TRUMP’S “ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL”
The head of China’s Passenger Car Association loves the part of President Trump’s One Big Beautiful bill that gets rid of EV subsidies. He says it’s a big win for the Chinese auto industry because now the U.S. will mainly concentrate on producing obsolete internal combustion technology, while China will surge ahead with New Energy Vehicles, which includes BEVs, PHEVS and EREVs. So far this year, China’s global exports of these types of vehicles are up 48% and will probably top 2 million units before the year is over. 

FORD STILL QUALIFIES FOR U.S. BATTERY SUBSIDIES
And yet, that One Big Beautiful Bill didn’t gut everything to do with EVs. The Ford Motor Company says the battery plant it’s building in Michigan using CATL technology to make LFP batteries will still qualify for U.S. government subsidies. Ford says those batteries are critical for it to come out with profitable electric vehicles that cost under $30,000. Jim Farley says they’re working on the EV equivalent of a modern-day Model T that will be out in 2027. We don’t have all the details yet, but it looks like Trump’s bill is keeping at least some of the battery production tax credits in place.  

TEENS CAN RENT WAYMO AVs
You no longer need a driver’s license to get a car. At least not in Phoenix, Arizona you don’t. Waymo is now allowing teens from 14-17 years old to order rides for themselves. A parent or guardian needs to have an account first, but then they can add a kid to it. There’s even specially trained remote operators to assist and they can contact account owners if necessary. Trip status can also be shared in real-time and account owners receive all bills. This is kind of big news. Most states require you to be 21 years old to rent a car, and some rental companies have special policies for anyone under 25.

   

BAIDU RENTS AVs BY THE WEEK
In somewhat related news, Chinese autonomous provider Baidu has partnered with a car rental service to offer its robotaxis to users. So, instead of ordering a ride to go from point A to point B, you can now have a Baidu robotaxi all to yourself for as little as 4 hours or as much as 7 days. You need to be 18 or older, but no word on if you need a driver’s license or what the service will cost.

AV RACE CAR SMASHES TRACK RECORD
Speaking of autonomous cars and the progress they’re making, a race car from the Indy Autonomous Challenge just smashed the track record at the Autodromo of Modena in Italy. The previous record was held by a Lamborghini Huracán STO with a human driver and the autonomous Indy Autonomous car beat that record by a second. And if you know road racing, that’s a big margin. The autonomous race car uses an Indy Lights chassis with a 2-liter Honda engine with 450 horsepower. It’s equipped with 4 Luminar lidars, 2 radars from Continental, 6 cameras and uses processors from Intel and NVIDIA. All told it has 14 terabytes of on-board storage. Students and researchers from the University of Modena and Reggio Emilia are the ones who set the record.

RIVIAN LAUNCHES GEN 2 QUAD MOTOR
Rivian fans will be happy to know that the EV maker is bringing its quad-motor setup to its second-gen R1 models. The setup was previously offered on the first-gen R1T and S, but only the dual- and tri-motor versions had been offered on the second-gen up to this point. The quad-motor offers 1,025 horsepower and nearly 1,200 lb-ft of torque, which rockets both R1 models from 0-60 MPH in about 2.5 seconds and they’ll cover the quarter mile in 10.5 seconds. EPA range is estimated at 374 miles, while a NACS charging port is standard. The quad-motor R1T starts at about $120,000 and the R1S version is about $126,000.

RIVIAN SPIN-OFF VALUED AT $1B
In other Rivian news, Also Inc, the micromobility company it spun off in May, just raised another $200 million in funding, which takes its total valuation over $1 billion. Also is scheduled to launch its first product early next year, which is expected to be some kind of e-bike.

U.S. USED CAR PRICES CLIMBING 
Used car prices in the U.S. are on the rise and they’re expected to continue going up. The Manheim Used Vehicle Index, which tracks prices of used vehicles sold at wholesale auctions, increased 1.6% last month from May on a seasonally adjusted basis and it’s up 6.3% compared to last year, which is the largest annual increase since August 2022. A couple of factors are contributing to the increase in price. Trump’s tariffs prompted buyers to snap up new vehicles before they set in, which impacted supplies and forced some buyers to the used market and led to price increases. Also, supplies of used vehicles were already tight because of a shortage of new vehicles caused by the pandemic and chip shortage a few years back. So, there aren’t as many vehicles coming off lease into the used market, which is also boosting prices.

VW AG EKES OUT GLOBAL Q2 SALES GAIN
Despite a big drop in North America, the Volkswagen Group increased sales in the second quarter. The Group sold 2.3 million vehicles worldwide, which was up just over 1% compared to a year ago. North America was the only market to see a decline, which was down 16%. Europe saw a slight increase, less than 1%, and China was up almost 3%. The VW Group’s fully-electric sales were also strong in the second quarter. It sold over 248,000 BEVs globally, up 37%. That was mainly in Europe, where VW’s BEV sales surged 72%. But BEV sales were down 5% in the U.S. and 32% in China.

BENTLEY REVEALS JAG-LIKE EV CONCEPT
Bentley revealed an all-new EV concept, called the EXP 15. While it takes inspiration from Grand Tourers of the 1930s, the model’s design hints at upcoming electric cars we’ll see from Bentley. It says three key traits; Monolithic Presence, Muscular Form and Carved Precision; make up the core of what its future vehicles will look like. And that will include a slight modification to the wings on Bentley’s logo. The EXP 15 is over 5 meters or about 16.5 feet long, but yet it only has three seats. The passenger side features coach doors and a section of roof that opens to provide a massive entranceway. The seat will even swivel to make getting in and out easier and it can also be moved all the way forward, next to the driver, or all the way back, creating room for luggage or a pet. Thanks to a hatchback design that’s paired with a tailgate, there’s even the option for a little lounge area in the back. We’ll have to see if any of this actually makes its way to Bentley’s first production EV, which is going to be revealed sometime next year. 

Bentley EXP 15 Concept

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  1. Kevin A says

    July 9, 2025 at 12:27 pm

    I still done get it. If Tesla market cap is so huge, why don’t they use it to buy other companies that could improve Tesla’s situation. The Tesla name is tarnished in some countries and it appears they have lots of spare capacity. Why not buy Rivian with Tesla shares and use the Cybertruck factory to massively increase the production of Rivian models. Why not buy an ICE only OEM (there must still be one) and use Tesla tech to launch an EV under that untainted brand name. Hell, buy Toyota and dominate the world. What is holding Elon back? His ego?

  2. MERKUR DRIVER says

    July 9, 2025 at 12:47 pm

    The Chinese have one way to look at it and that is a possibility. The other way to look at it is that without the tax payer funding purchases, the OEMs will look for ways to innovate and bring the cost down. The innovation will likely be led by companies such as Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, Scout and even Slate Auto because their very survival will depend on how well they innovate and bring the costs down to compete with ICE vehicles. We have already seen stories here on Autoline that indicates that there is significant movement on the innovation front.

  3. Kit Gerhart says

    July 9, 2025 at 1:20 pm

    Red Bull F1 boss Horner fired.

  4. John McElroy says

    July 9, 2025 at 1:28 pm

    I wonder what Ford is thinking about its $30 million investment in Red Bull F1 with everything that’s going on there?

  5. Lambo2015 says

    July 9, 2025 at 1:34 pm

    Kevin- Tesla may be somewhat tarnished but it’s still the leader when it comes to EVs. So why buy another EV company that isn’t doing as well? Or worse yet buy a historically ice automaker? Tesla has no experience with gas engines transmissions and would probably not do well to buy any company like Toyota and maintain any gas offerings. Although I agree that Tesla should consider dipping into the hybrid market as there will be a market for that for a lot longer than environmentalists would like to admit. Tesla should develop another division strictly for hybrids. I think the reality that EVs are not the 100% replacement for all autos is starting to sink in. We need a logical mix that makes sense.

    Sean while I agree a full second is significant in racing. It’s huge in drag racing. On a road course going 160 mph that’s only 234 ft on 2 mile course. Not even a football field difference.

  6. GM Veteran says

    July 9, 2025 at 3:13 pm

    So, Trump administration policies are increasing the cost of new cars via tariffs, and used cars because the rising cost of new cars is shifting more buyers to the used vehicle market, and new and used EVs by eliminating the incentives that are designed to increase sales volumes to get OEMs to the point where economies of scale will reduce prices and allow for the incentives to be phased out. Sounds like a great plan to me.

  7. Kit Gerhart says

    July 9, 2025 at 3:56 pm

    A lot of people have left Red Bull on their own, but Horner was fired. They still have who is probably the best driver in F1 with Verstappen, but no one else can drive that car. They’ve had three generally decent “second” drivers in less than a year, and none of them can drive the Red Bull well. Yeah, I wonder if Ford is having second thoughts about throwing all of that money into Red Bull Racing.

    The second half of this season could be interesting. I think it was about this time last year that McLaren went from mid-pack to dominant. Next year will be very interesting, with the major rules changes and two new powertrain builders. Well, there will be only one more than before, since Renault is dropping out, and Alpine will use Mercedes power.

  8. wmb says

    July 9, 2025 at 4:04 pm

    The interior? Amazing! The exterior? Between the wheels I could live with (like I could EVER afford a Bentley!), but the face and rear end? What were they thinking?!?! The EXP100 concept should be the future of Bentley’s, not this front and rear end. As, IMHO, Bentley should not been doing a vehicle below the Bentayga, unless the long wheel base version will become the standard version. They should be looking to replace their flagship Mulsanne, whether that be a vehicle like the Mulsanne or an SUV. Being a part of the VW Group, I’m sure they’d want to spread the cost of should a model with another brand in the portfolio and Bugatti has need a second model line since VW purchased company. Yet, with VW’s financial issues of late, I do see that happening. The EXP15 needs a rethink, if any of the controversial aspects of it were to included on any production model!

  9. Regulus says

    July 9, 2025 at 4:09 pm

    gm vet : if you, GM, a quintessential american compANY, STOP building your cars in Mexico and other third world dumps where labor costs one tenth what US workers make, the tariff is Zero. Not just that, people who would have bought imports but refuse to do so because of the tariffs, will come back to you. You will never see a 50, much less, 60 % market share ever again, BUT it sure will be much better than your share under senile idiot Joe Biden (who was a worthless idiot all his life, long before he became senile), when GM hovered around… 16-17 %

  10. wmb says

    July 9, 2025 at 4:13 pm

    The thing that makes no sense with Tesla, with all the financial resources that they have, it’s how slow they are to update the existing product. I know there’s still the one that everyone else is play catch up with, but I don’t see why it is either taking them so long to build a vehicle smaller than the model 3, or update the physical/visual styling of the current models.

  11. wmb says

    July 9, 2025 at 6:53 pm

    …I do understand that Tesla has been updating their tech in that time and there is a lot of cost associated in that. Yet, the average person would not no to look at their products.

  12. Kit Gerhart says

    July 9, 2025 at 7:44 pm

    Test

  13. Ziggy says

    July 9, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    Thanks Kit, glad to see someone is keeping up with the latest in F1 news.

  14. Mark Brichacek says

    July 9, 2025 at 9:41 pm

    I am guessing that Jos Verstappen’s feud with Horner is somehow related.

  15. Regulus says

    July 10, 2025 at 5:31 am

    Sean, John: Regarding Tesla Valuation.

    I think we went over this before.

    1. Stock prices have little to do with a company’s size, assets or past earnings even.

    Stock prices reflect the average investor’s expectation of a company’s FUTURE earnings.

    2. Still, if Tesla was viewed as an auto company, a price-earnings ratio of 170 or so is very unusual. It implies that the company’s earnings will grow twenty times or so from what they are today. No auto company, even Toyota, can do that.

    3. So the explanation is, Tesla investors do not view it as an auto but as a TECH, and especially an AI, company.

  16. Kit Gerhart says

    July 10, 2025 at 10:48 am

    Do Tesla stock holders spend a lot of time in casinos? “Investing” in stock with a price-earnings ratio of 170 seems a lot like gambling to me.

  17. Regulus says

    July 10, 2025 at 4:13 pm

    Ask Bob Wilson that, Kit. I never buy or sell individual stocks. Why bother? Unnecessary risk. ANd high P/E are common in AI and Tech companies. If you read what I wrote carefully, I would not need to write this.

  18. RS says

    July 13, 2025 at 4:31 pm

    Sean/John,
    Most of your commenters are courteous. Occasionally, we have to accommodate an arrogant @$$. You have blocked them in the past. Please do it again

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