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AD #4122 – Mercedes Pension Dumps Nissan Stock; Why Global Auto Regs Have Never Happened; Ram Returns To NASCAR Truck Series, Can Cup Be Far Behind?

August 25, 2025 by sean

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0:00 U.S. & EU Could Share Auto Regs
0:57 Why Global Auto Regs Have Never Happened
1:33 Porsche Dumps Plans to Make Batteries
2:07 Mercedes Pension Dumps Nissan Stock
2:31 Tesla Goes with DeepSeek In China, Not Grok
3:38 Renault Refresh of The Kiger
4:13 Ram Returns to NASCAR Truck Series, Can Cup Be Far Behind?
5:04 Waymo Starts Testing in NYC
5:40 Audi Refresh of The Q3
6:45 Audi Drops Lower Trims of A7 
7:07 Autoline Poll on Future of EV Startups

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U.S. & EU COULD SHARE AUTO REGS
For nearly half a century the auto industry dreamed of a day when the world would adopt common safety and emission standards because it would eliminate a ton of regulatory costs. It could simplify manufacturing operations in plants that ship cars to different global markets. And it would also allow automakers to offer low-volume models in markets where the cost of compliance would otherwise make them money losers. Well, maybe that day is at hand, at least between the U.S. and the EU. Automotive News reports that the latest trade agreement between the two has a sentence that would “provide mutual recognition to each other’s standards,” for automobiles. So while they would not commonize their standards, they would accept any imported car that met its own country’s regulations. 

WHY GLOBAL AUTO REGS HAVE NEVER HAPPENED
Here’s our Autoline Insight. There’s a lot of details to be worked out before this happens, and you can expect a lot of blowback from regulators on both sides. Whenever the idea of commonizing regulations was raised in the past, everyone would agree that it was a good idea. The Europeans would say, everyone should adopt our regulations. The Americans would say no, no no, you should adopt ours. And the Japanese would say we don’t want either of yours, ours are the best. So nothing ever got done. But let’s hope this time is different.

 

PORSCHE DUMPS PLANS TO MAKE BATTERIES
Porsche is scraping plans to build its own high-performance EV batteries. The automaker created a subsidiary called Cellforce to produce batteries but the business will now become an independent R&D unit. Porsche is cutting about 200 of the nearly 300 employees at Cellforce however Volkswagen’s battery subsidiary PowerCo, will offer positions to some of the laid off workers. Porsche is blaming the decision on slower than expected demand for EVs and changing market conditions in the U.S. and China.

MERCEDES PENSION DUMPS NISSAN STOCK
The bad news keeps piling up at Nissan. Now comes word that the pension trust fund that Mercedes-Benz runs for its retirees is dumping all the shares that it holds in Nissan, which are worth about $346 million. Those shares go on sale tomorrow and the Wall Street Journal says Nissan’s stock price will likely start dropping once the trading starts.

    

TESLA GOES WITH DEEPSEEK IN CHINA, NOT GROK
Looks like Elon Musk won’t be bringing Grok to China. According to Tesla’s website, it’s going to start integrating two competing AI systems into its vehicles in the country. The company will use DeepSeek as a chatbot or voice assistant, similar to Grok, but another, called DouBao, is also able to control certain vehicle functions, which Grok currently can’t do. It’s unclear if they’re available right now, but they should be soon and will first be offered in the new long-wheelbase version of the Model Y. Tesla launched Grok in newer U.S. vehicles recently as well, so it’s clearly making a push to bring AI into its lineup, but most automakers in China already have AI in their vehicles, so Tesla is actually playing a little bit of catch-up.

RENAULT REFRESH OF THE KIGER
Renault is following a more traditional path for model updates in India. Four years ago it launched a brand-new compact crossover, called the Kiger, that is specifically designed for the market. And now that vehicle is getting its first update. However, other than a new front end, it’s a pretty mild refresh. The rest of the body panels, interior and 3-cylinder engine choices are mostly the same. Renault’s relatively slow model refresh rate in India could be impacting its sales there. Last month it only sold 323 Kigers.

New Renault Kiger
 

RAM RETURNS TO NASCAR TRUCK SERIES, CAN CUP BE FAR BEHIND?
Ram says getting into racing is both a natural and strategic move for the brand because over 40% of NASCAR fans are truck owners. In June Ram announced a move to join the NASCAR CRAFTSMAN Truck Series next season and now it has its first racing partner. Kaulig Racing, which already competes in the Cup and Xfinity series’, is now going to the truck series for the first time and will field up to 5 Ram trucks. Their first race will be in February of next year at Daytona. And don’t be surprised to see Stellantis move into the NASCAR Cup and/or Xfinity series as well, most likely with Dodge. We think there’s a good chance it sticks with Kaulig, which currently races Chevy Camaros. And rumors have it that Honda could get into NASCAR too, and possibly even drop out of IndyCar.

Ram NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series

WAYMO STARTS TESTING IN NYC
We keep saying that 2025 is the year of the autonomous car because we believe we’re at the beginning of that hockey stick inflection point. Now comes word that Waymo just got permission to start testing autonomous cars in New York City, specifically in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Only 8 AVs will be part of the test, and they’ll have a human on board behind the wheel in case anything goes wrong. But Waymo is already operating in at least 5 other cities, with another 2 more on the way, and it looks like it’s probably only a matter of time before New York joins the list.

AUDI REFRESH OF THE Q3
Audi is launching the updated version of the Q3. Like the previous generation, the model is available in two body styles, a traditional SUV and a Sportback, which has a roofline that is 29 mm lower than the SUV. The base Q3 is powered by a 1.5L four-cylinder engine with mild hybrid technology, while a 2.0L diesel is also available. Both produce 110-kW of power or 147 horsepower. There’s also a plug-in hybrid which delivers 200-kW or 268 horsepower. It features a nearly 26-kWh battery that provides 119 kilometers or 74 miles of electric range for the Q3 SUV and 1-km less for the Sportback. The SUV starts at 44,600 euros or about $52,000, while the Sportback starts at 46,450 euros or about $54,000. And both launch first in Germany in October.

New Audi Q3 SUV
 

AUDI DROPS LOWER TRIMS OF A7 
And speaking of Audi, it’s dropping the standard A7 sedan and sportier S7 variant from its lineup in the U.S. and will only offer the high-performance RS 7 for the 2026 model year. Audi says the new A6, which launches in the U.S. at the end of the year or early next year, will represent the brand in the midsize sedan segment.

AUTOLINE POLL ON FUTURE OF EV STARTUPS
Ok, let’s go over the results of our latest poll, which was open to our YouTube and Patreon members. EV startups were counting on ZEV credits and $7,500 rebates for their business plan. But now that the Trump Administration has axed all of that, we wanted to know what your outlook for the EV startups is? Close to a third (31%) of you said “Don’t worry, they’ll survive.” But more than half (53%) were pessimistic and said “This is going to cripple their operations.” And 16% said none of the above.
 
Here’s some of the feedback we got. TXCraig believes the startups will be ok. “The idea with a credit was to try to bring the cost of EVs down to the price of ICE. It’s sad, it’s gone, but I don’t think it’s going to slow anything down much.”

Thomas Bowen had this to say “History is littered with the wreckage of failed auto startups, and this will add to the pile. The EV sector is facing stiff headwinds from an oversaturated market, and long-established players can’t turn a profit.”
 
Steven Relyea says “There are so many indirect ways fossil fuel companies have been subsidized, the U.S. should reconsider its support of EV startups. The automobile industry is strategically important to the long-term health of the U.S. economy.”
 
But not everyone is on board with EV subsidies. Kelly Spronberg says “If your business model is sound, you don’t need government handouts. The product should stand on its merits, not just the price.”
 
And Keith Mensing echoed that thought, “We never should have subsidized expensive cars for the upper / luxury car segment, and that’s what most of the EV’s are. If you have a good product and business, you will probably find success. It won’t be because the government subsidized your business.”
 
Thanks to everyone that voted and took a moment to leave a comment, we love getting your feedback.

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  1. Kit Gerhart says

    August 25, 2025 at 12:25 pm

    It will probably be too late for me if the US ever accepts EU regs, but it would have been great if that had happened a few years ago. I could have gotten an RWD diesel 5 series or E-Class wagon.

  2. Kit Gerhart says

    August 25, 2025 at 12:30 pm

    If Stellantis got back into NASCAR cup series, what would the cars be? Could they call them Challenger or Charger? How much longer can Chevy call their race cars Camaro? In reality, it seems that only Ford and Toyota should be able to run in cup or the second string series, because they are the only ones that currently have road cars to name their race cars after.

  3. George Ricci says

    August 25, 2025 at 12:54 pm

    All the engines used in the Truck Series is a V8 Pushrod engine which is manufactured to spec by Ilmor. The base for this engine is a 6.2 liter Chevrolet LSX NT1 engine. So, regardless of the truck brand they all use the same engine. The reason for this was cost reduction for the truck teams. For Stellantis to move into the NASCAR Cup and/or Xfinity series they would need to develop there own Brand specific engine and build it, which would be very expensive. With Stellantis current problems this is very unlikely. Rumors about Honda coming to NASCAR have been around for a long time. So, we will see, but I am not holding may breath.

  4. John McElroy says

    August 25, 2025 at 1:13 pm

    Great question what Chevy will do in NASCAR. Dodge would almost undoubtedly use the Charger name.

  5. Drew says

    August 25, 2025 at 1:22 pm

    During the Great Recession, one of my work partners did a cost opportunity analysis for harmonized regulations between NA and EU. The analysis scope included both emissions and safety. The annual cost savings for each major OEM was several $Billion. We thought the world’s governments would be interested in such efficiencies at a time of questioned survival. We thought wrong. In particular, the EC viewed their unique regs as a form of socialized job security; and the US’s NHTSA/EPA said US regs are mandated by Congress. Pity.

  6. GM Veteran says

    August 25, 2025 at 1:47 pm

    Kit, I understand your point, but NASCAR has strayed so far from the original formula of success, and allowed so many oddball decisions over the years that the naming of the cars doesn’t seem so important any more. For years, they allowed Toyota to field a car that looks like a two door Camry, even though they didn’t sell one. None of the vehicles racing have any relation to the vehicles they sell to the public. Why not just call them Toyota, Ford, and Chevrolet and dispense with the model names? Monster trucks have more in common with the production vehicles they are based on than NASCAR cars or trucks do. Since the vast majority of vehicles sold in this country are crossovers, why not revise the specs to have crossover body styles instead of coupes?

    Honestly, I think Ram getting into NASCAR truck racing is pretty pointless. Why not spend that money on new features, better quality or lower prices? That will sell a lot more trucks than being involved in a racing series that has no relation to the product other than the brand name. This load of crap has been sold to the auto companies for a long time. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday has not been a thing since the 70’s. Ram sells many more trucks now than they did 10, 15 or 20 years ago. They have taken market share from GM and Ford because they kept improving their trucks, not because they were involved in racing. Bringing back the V8 engine option will sell more Ram trucks. NASCAR truck racing won’t. Given the overall state of their business over the last couple of years, it’s hard to believe that Stellantis management signed off on this.

  7. George Ricci says

    August 25, 2025 at 1:57 pm

    On the question of what will Chevrolet do since the Camaro is not be made any more?

    In NASCAR, a manufacturer can use a discontinued car model for an indefinite period as long as no changes are made to the body design. This allows Chevrolet to continue racing the Camaro after its production ceased in December 2023 and will continue to do so until Chevrolet or NASCAR decides to introduce a new model. There is no hard 3- or 5-year limit; the car’s eligibility is tied to its homologation and whether the manufacturer can introduce a new one.

    Yes, Chevrolet plans to bring back the Camaro nameplate, but not as a direct replacement for the discontinued two-door coupe. While the previous generation ended in 2024, GM is considering a new model, possibly an electric vehicle, to carry the name forward, possibly as early as the 2027 model year, according to recent reports and GM president Mark Reuss. However, this new Camaro’s form and function, such as a crossover or fastback SUV, are still being debated due to concerns about the business case and sales potential for a direct replacement in the current market.

  8. Albemarle says

    August 25, 2025 at 2:29 pm

    I expect that the nice idea of accepting European standards in North America will be squashed quickly.

  9. Ziggy says

    August 25, 2025 at 2:50 pm

    It’s always baffled me why Waymo uses Jaguars for its platforms since they have to be one of the most expensive four door vehicles out there and don’t exactly have a stellar reliability record either. Anybody know why they picked Jaguar for their platform? Seems like a lot of more practical and cheaper vehicles out there to use for ride sharing vehicles, the Toyota Siena min-van comes to mind as one.

  10. Kit Gerhart says

    August 25, 2025 at 3:01 pm

    John McElroy, how did I not think of Charger as what Dodge would use if they get back in NASCAR cup. I guess it’s because I’ve only seen about one new Charger in the wild, so far.

    I read that the NASCAR Chevys would say “CHEVROLET” rather than “CAMARO” on the rear bumpers next season. I suppose in a few years, cup racing vehicles will be Equinox, RAV4, and Bronco Sport.

    Even if EU spec cars could be bought in the US, the value of that option would be diminished, as long as the tariffs are going on. Canada might have a better chance of working out an agreement to ship EU and NA spec cars both ways.

  11. Kit Gerhart says

    August 25, 2025 at 3:34 pm

    Ziggy, Waymo apparently wanted an EV for their taxis. I, too was wondering why I-Pace, but maybe they got a really good deal on them from Magna-Steyr who was building them.

  12. Drew says

    August 25, 2025 at 4:20 pm

    Kit, I just returned from a trip to Germany. I really liked the vehicle fleet of cars (yes, cars)… small hatchbacks and mid.size “estates”. The VW/Audi and Ford Mondeo estates are drool-worthy. You’d love it, but it’d reinforce your frustration with the NA market.

  13. Kit Gerhart says

    August 25, 2025 at 4:54 pm

    Drew, I was last in Europe about 11 years ago, and yeah, I loved the vehicle mix.. I had a basic Citroen C4 diesel hatch rental, and it was quirky, but fun. There seemed to be a lot of manual trans Passat diesel estates where I was in Alsace region.

  14. Ziggy says

    August 25, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    Thanks Kit!

  15. Kit Gerhart says

    August 26, 2025 at 8:39 am

    Perez and Bottas to Cadillac F1.

  16. Regulus says

    August 26, 2025 at 10:15 am

    US and EU having the same regs? When pigs fly. Here we have the Brits switching to metric decades ago, and the US still using the Neanderthal “British” units even in AD 2025! We cannot do even THIS tiny first step.

  17. Kit Gerhart says

    August 26, 2025 at 10:56 am

    Britain still uses miles and miles/hour on road signs, but metric for most things.

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