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0:00 Auto Industry Has Too Much EV Battery Capacity
1:02 EREV Sales Tanking in China
1:52 Ram Delays New Mid-Size Pickup
2:29 VW & Audi Clawing Back Sales in China
4:23 Dongfeng Sedan Getting In-Wheel Hub Motors
5:18 Kia Restyles the Telluride
6:19 Tesla Loses Yet Another Exec.
6:44 Xiaomi YU7 Outsells Model Y in China
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GLOBAL EV BATTERY GLUT
The entire auto industry has too much EV battery capacity. That’s according to a new study from AlixPartners, which is one of our sponsors. In North America, capacity is nearly twice as high as demand, in Europe it’s more than two-times higher and in China, EV battery capacity is 5.6-times higher than demand. China’s overcapacity is especially high because tariffs have restricted EVs and components from being exported. And in North America, the capacity-to-demand ratio is expected to grow to 2.4 by 2028 and remain there through 2030. That’s because consumers aren’t currently buying EVs at the rate that automakers and regulators expected them to. And AlixPartners says the main reason car buyers aren’t choosing EVs is the higher prices.
EREV SALES TANKING IN CHINA
Extended Range EVs, or EREVs, were the fastest growing segment in the Chinese market. Not anymore. Sales have dropped for three consecutive months, and they’re dropping by double digits. The beauty of EREVs is that they drive like an EV, so you get things like great low-end torque and one-pedal driving. Yet, they have an on-board gasoline engine to provide long driving distances. But sales are dropping in China because most EVs now deliver 500 to 600 kilometers of range, or roughly 310 to 370 miles. And fast charging stations are becoming quite common. EREVs were developed to address range and charging time anxiety. But as EVs improve, those anxieties are fading away.
RAM MID-SIZE PICKUP INTEL
We’ve got some product intel on that Ram mid-size pickup. Autoforecast Solutions reports that production was pushed back three months to February of 2028 at the Toledo Supplier Park. The truck will be built on the Stella Large platform, under the code name R7P/NN. As we’ve reported before that truck will walk into a bee’s nest of competition, including the Toyota Tacoma, Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, Nissan Frontier, Honda Ridgeline, GMC Canyon and soon, a new entry from Hyundai.
VW & AUDI CLAW THEIR WAY BACK IN CHINA
VW and Audi have been clobbered in the Chinese market, losing sales and bleeding market share. But they haven’t given up and are starting to turn things around. Part of that includes PR efforts, like the Audi E5 Sportback setting the fastest time for cars under $69,000 at China’s race track called Asia’s Ridge Circuit. It also includes adding new models with more in-car intelligence and Level 2+ driver assist technology. That’s part of the reason Audi’s sales shot up more than 19% last month. Surprisingly, VW has actually grown market share with some of its gasoline models. But it’s also adding new EVs to its lineup like the ID. UNYX 08, which is introducing a whole new form language to VW’s styling. It’s a crossover with 700 kilometers of CLTC range, or about 434 miles. At a time when some are saying that foreign automakers ought to abandon the Chinese market, VW and Audi are showing the value of not giving up and fighting to get back in the game.
DONGFENG DEVELOPING HUB-MOTOR SEDAN
We’ve seen several attempts to introduce in-wheel hub motors, the most recent being Lordstown, but so far those attempts have failed. However, another car maker is going to give them a shot, Chinese automaker Dongfeng. It filed documents with the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, one of China’s top regulators, for a version of its eπ 007 sedan with 4 individual in-wheel motors. Each unit produces 100 kW, so combined output comes to 536 horsepower. While many Chinese automakers make some of their parts in-house, these motors will be sourced from the Shanghai Automobile Electric Drive company. No word on when the model might hit the market or what pricing will be. Although, current versions of the sedan range in price from about $16,000 to $21,000.
KIA RE-STYLES TELLLURIDE
Kia is going to reveal the next-gen Telluride at the LA auto show, which kicks off later this month, but it is giving us a preview of the new SUV. Kia says there will be a number of trim levels offered, including this one here, called X-Pro, which is meant to look more rugged. While we see some styling inspiration from the current generation, there’s also some big departures, like a much bigger grille, as well as some smaller changes, like flush-mounted door handles. We think part of the reason the grille is so much bigger is because the overall vehicle grew in size. The wheelbase was stretched by 3-inches, it’s 2.3-inches longer overall and 1-inch taller. The interior also looks like almost every surface was touched by designers and is highlighted by a large digital display screen that floats on top of the dash. No word on powertrain offerings yet, but Kia calls the new Telluride its “flagship gas-powered SUV.”
TESLA LOSES YET ANOTHER EXEC
Tesla is losing another program manager. Yesterday, the head of the Cybertruck and Model 3 left and soon after, the head of the Model Y program, Emmanuel Lamacchia, also announced he’s leaving Tesla after 8 years with the company. Tesla has seen a bunch of talent leave the company this year with at least 10 high-level leaders and executives stepping away.
XIAOMI YU7 OUTSELLS TESLA MODEL Y
And as we reported yesterday, Tesla struggled in China last month. Its sales fell 10% to just under 61,500 units in October. But that figure also includes China-made exports and when you exclude those vehicles, Tesla sold 26,100 units in the domestic market. And that means the Xiaomi YU7, which only started deliveries in July, outsold the Model Y last month. According to data from the China Passenger Car Association, Xiaomi sold 33,600 YU7s, easily outpacing the Model Y. Overall, Xiaomi has delivered more than 70,000 YU7s since its launch in July.
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I didn’t get a chance to comment on yesterday’s report due to work, so I will include some of that in today (not that anyone missed me! LOL!). There are a long of things that Ram might not have been either first or second in, but I wouldn’t count them out just because they joining the part late. They have many times won buyers over by focusing on giving them more of what they like, great styling and really competitive pricing. They were the first with a huge touch screen and serious luxury vehicle type appointments in their full-size pickups! While I hate them moving the vehicle date back to 2028, but when competition is good, the consumer wins!
I wonder if the reason that Tesla is loosing so many top executives, is due to Tesla/Musk’s pivot from vehicles to, robots, robotaxis and AI. While those programs may provide more financially for Tesla, they already have people in place to run those programs and therefore those exec. may see the writing on the wall and heading for the door!
I wonder if the Toyota is providing the EV option for those urban area in some markets of the EU, that are low to zero emissions zones? This way those business in those zones can have a sturdy vehicle to transport goods in those other businesses in the local area? If that is true, the only issue I see may be cost? Maybe they could lease the vehicle, or consider it a business investment, with potentially lower maintenance costs?
I wonder if that second vehicle might be a midsize SUV? In that ICE space niw, they have the underwhelming XT6 and while it might be okay as a rival to QX60, RX and MDX, it’s no where the likes of the X5 and GLE, or even the Aviator, Q7 and Vistiq EV! With the big power numbers of the current Escalade-V, having a midsize Cadillac SUV with either a V or Blackwood (Blackfin, or Blackwing?) version, could be pretty cool! Or, with the success of the Celestiq, I would be surprised if Cadillac did a full-size sedan and offered it in a limited series! With the Celestiq only doing 300, maybe they might double that, give it the engine of the Escalade-V and charge $130-150K?
…that being the second vehicle on the CT5 architecture, that is! I just hope that, in an effort to keep the cost down on the second model, be it Chevy or Cadillac, that the bean counters at GM dumb downs the award winning CT5 and strip out some of its greatness.
“AlixPartners says the main reason car buyers aren’t choosing EVs is the higher prices.”
Wrong! The #1 reason is government intervention favoring the oil and gas industry and not promoting electric vehicle ownership. Let’s see what an ICE vehicle would cost if the federal government stopped providing approximately $35 billion annually in subsidies to the oil and gas industry.
Sean or anyone, do you know what the new car purchase vs scrappage rate is in China? With the huge population and emerging middle class, I would expect the total number of vehicles in service to still be expanding rapidly.
With some searches, I was able to find that the U.S. sells about 1.09 times as many new “light vehicles” as are taken out of service, but I couldn’t find any similar information about China.
“Wrong! The #1 reason is government intervention favoring the oil and gas industry and not promoting electric vehicle ownership.”
Uh, what? There has been enormous promotion and direct to buyer government EV subsidy for over a decade. Even draconian government mandates from CARB. Along with a ton of carbon doomer propaganda in all media. Your logic needs more logic…and facts.
They cost more to buy and insure. The savings in gas does not make up for the difference. And to top it off, the depreciation is absolutely brutal.
I just looked at the web site for the top selling vehicle in the U.S., F-150. F-150 offers one thing not available from the competition, the hybrid powertrain that gives somewhat better city mpg and fairly high power outlets for running tools, etc. It turns out that this powertrain is exclusively for the “lifestyle” market. It is available only on mid-high trim “super crew” trucks with 4WD. That powertrain would seem useful for a work truck, but they won’t sell it that way.