AD #2645 – BP Partners w/ Didi on EV Chargers, Details on Ford’s New Engine & Trans, What Cars Thieves Like Most

August 1st, 2019 at 11:42am

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Runtime: 8:18

0:06 Indonesia to Offer EV Incentives
0:36 BP Partners w/ Didi on EV Chargers
1:01 GM’s Q2 Earnings
2:01 Details on Ford’s New Engine & Transmission
4:35 Dodge’s New Sales Gimmick
5:19 What Cars Thieves Like Most
7:24 Bentley’s Flying Bees

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31 Comments to “AD #2645 – BP Partners w/ Didi on EV Chargers, Details on Ford’s New Engine & Trans, What Cars Thieves Like Most”

  1. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Anyone else think that incentives stifle development of technology (or at least leads to wasteful spending with little to show for it). I’m remembering some of the wasteful money in battery research going back a few years ago. Maybe I don’t have my facts straight but it seems when a goal is made and the manufacturers have to figure it out for themselves stuff gets done (from competition). Just a random thought (I do drift occasionally). ;)

  2. Larry D. Says:

    The best countries for EVs are affluent and as small as possible, so you can go from one end to the other in one charge. Like Denmark, the NL, Belgium etc. Norway is too big and has too small a population but wanted to go EV whole hog and has.

    Indonesia is a huge, poor country, 735,000 sq miles, and over 260 mill people, BUT 145 mill live in tiny Java, with an area of barely 53,000 sq miles.

    So if they put a ton of superchrgers in Java only, this might work.

  3. Larry D. Says:

    200 stations is a laughably small number (BP in China), compared to the over 100,000 existing EV chargers in China. BP wants to build thousands (how many?) more. And I want to fly like an eagle. Or at least a crow.

  4. Larry D. Says:

    Yesterday I drove from the summer place the 25 miles to the capital again and saw a red Yaris Hybrid. The exterior is 100% regular Yaris, but it did have a “hybrid” badge in the back. The Prius C is a different, larger car.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Is the big Ford truck gas engine all new, the old 460 revived, or something else?

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 From what I could find, the Yaris hybrid uses the same powertrain as the Aqua/Prius C, and the Yaris is about 2-3 inches shorter than the Aqua/C. I’m not sure why they would make both. They seem very similar.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    1 The problem with incentives is they really only address one thing $$. How many vehicles are bought on price alone? So many other factors weigh in on a purchase that I’m not sure it really helps EVs. I would think you have to already be on the fence of buying an EV and the incentive sweetens it enough to sway a buyer but I suspect that isn’t the case very often.

  8. Michael Myers Says:

    Those channels in the Ford rocker arm are not machine, they are cast into the arm, as GM has been doing since the LS1 back in 1995. Google LS1 rocker arm and the picture looks pretty close to the one you showed.

  9. Lambo2015 Says:

    3 Yeah I wasn’t clear if the stations are being added for specific use by the ride sharing Didi or if this just adds to the existing infrastructure?

  10. Larry D. Says:

    6 It’s a smaller, cheaper car. I thought it had a smaller engine than the corolla on which the Auris/C is based. I checked it out, and the next on the list is the Corolla Hatchback hybrid with a 1.8 vs a 1.5 lt engine of the Yaris Hybrid. The CHH looks much longer than the Yaris hatch, which is less than 4 meters. The Corolla Hatch Hybrid is more than a whole foot longer, at 4.37 m a much larger car (and much more expensive)

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    John/Sean; A 7.3L Mustang Cobra would peak my interest especially if it was supercharged.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7. Probably people buying less expensive EVs, like Leaf wouldn’t be paying enough tax to use the whole incentive, and those buying $100K Tesla S, and soon Taycan, will not be making their car choice because of the incentive.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    11 I meant ecoboosted..

  14. Phred Says:

    Big news Flash! You almost can not give away an EV car unless you have massive Government subsidies. The cars (??) are just not convenient as a replacement for an IC engine car.Buyers speak with their checkbook!!

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 What I found, from a combination of wikipedia and other sites, is that the Yaris hybrid sold in Europe, Vitz in some markets, has the same 1.5 powertrain as the slightly larger Aqua/Prius C in Japan and North America. Actually, the Prius C has been dropped in the US.

    Yes, the Corolla hatch hybrid, when/if it exists, and Corolla hybrid sedan, are larger than the Yaris, Vitz, et. al., and use the 1.8 liter Prius powertrain.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 Well its Indonesia so I suspect not many will be a Tesla S. If countries want to spend money trying to encourage an EV manufacturing and purchase, it probably makes sense for the greater good of everyone. Not any different than the government removing lead from gas and phasing out the traditional lightbulb. Or offering tax credits or rebates on insulating your home and buying a more efficient furnace.
    I took advantage of the insulation credit once but it didn’t affect my decision to install it. The house needed it and I was going to do it anyway. The tax credit was just a bonus.

  17. Barry T Says:

    5 Yes it is all new – there is some great tech involved, and maybe an unexpected investment in an all new ICE.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10,15 The Auris was related to Corolla, and was called Corolla in some markets, but is not closely related to the Aqua/Prius C.

    The closest to an Auris the US has seen was the Scion/Toyota iM, and the Lexus CT hybrid. The latter used the 1.8 liter gen 3 Prius powertrain.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 It would have been a big investment, but should be worth it. It should make sense for users of largish trucks, who don’t drive huge numbers of miles. The payback for diesels would be many years out, for someone who only drives their truck a few thousand miles a year, like to move a back hoe between local construction sites, or has a dump bed for local use.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Yep, it is kind of unexpected to me, that they would do an all new big gas engine. I guess as diesels get more complex to clean them up, and gas engines get more efficient, diesels don’t have the advantage they once did, except for very big, and/or high usage trucks.

    GM has a semi-new 6.6 truck engine, but it is based on the current widely used “small block” V8, but with an iron block.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    I bet we’ll hear this in tomorrow’s show.

    “X5 xDrive45e is claimed to share the same driveline as that used by the 745e, adding all-wheel drive capability.

    The 745e uses a turbocharged 3.0L inline 6-cyl. gasoline engine with 282 hp and a gearbox-mounted electric motor developing 112 hp for a combined system output of 388 hp and 442 lb.-ft. (600 Nm) of torque”

    282 by coincidence was exactly the HP of my 98 740il 4.4 v8

  22. Larry D. Says:

    15 “Corolla hatch hybrid, when/if it exists”

    What do you mean? Of course it 100% exists and is on sale by Toyota here, along with many other hybrids, Rav4, and a smaller one with wild styling. It is more than a foot longer than the Yaris Hybrid and probably still a foot shorter than the regular Prius.

  23. Larry D. Says:

    15, 22

    Here is a video of it too!

  24. Larry D. Says:

    15, 22 The prius is 4575 mm long, or 200 mm (20 CM, or 8″) longer than the Corolla Hatch Hybrid.

    A one foot difference in length is usually at LEAST One class bigger car.

    The CHH is not just bigger than the 3.95 m Yaris Hybrid, it is a whopping 400 mm, or 40 cm, or over one foot and four inches longer than the very short Yaris Hybrid, twice the diff between the CHH and the prius!

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Yeah, it exists, and is probably sold everywhere in the world, except North America. It is listed as “new” on the Toyota UK site, so may not have been sold very long, even there.

    I see there is a 1.8 and a 2.0 liter version sold in the UK. The 2.0 has substantially more power than the 1.8, which is the Prius powertrain. Maybe they should offer the 2.0 hybrid as option in the US, in the Corolla and Prius. It might help Prius sales, to have a “performance” version, if it didn’t hurt the mpg too much.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 The Corolla hatch is 13 inches shorter than the sedan, truncated, as with the Chevy Sonic hatch. Why do they do that? You lose space, and it would make little difference in manufacturing cost.

  27. Bob Wilson Says:

    The best anti-theft device is a manual transmission.

  28. Larry D. Says:

    26 maybe to make the sedans appear more premium than the hatches.

    Also a hatch or a small wagon often has more interior space than a sedan even if the sedan is half a foot or a foot longer. They are more efficient space-use wise.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    If you appreciate the efficiency of a hybrid but you want it to have a v8, 965 HP and a mere 900 Lbft torque, you got to hurry, they will only make 150 of them

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 According to the company’s web site, it will cost only Euro 455K plus VAT. From other sites, I find that the gas engine is an “American sourced supercharged 5 liter DOHC V8,” or similar wording, which sounds a lot like a Ford engine.

    It’s hard to imagine that a car like that would be at all refined, or reliable, with all that complexity with the hybrid powertrain, from an extremely low volume producer with little history.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    30 Wow it sounds like a bargain, save the fake Hispano-Suiza $, you can buy 4 of these instead.