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Runtime: 11:43
0:00 Big Layoffs & Production Cuts at Nissan
0:50 Mazda’s Profits Drop 67%
1:25 Daimler Truck Down in the Third Quarter
1:58 Lyft Gets New Partners for Autonomous Efforts
2:43 Volvo EX30 Finally Coming to the U.S.
4:17 EU Likely to Stick to Harder Emission Targets
5:03 EU Automakers Pooling Emissions to Avoid Fines
6:20 Hyundai Optimistic About Fuel Cell Future
7:07 New Mercedes CLA Gets Geely IC Engine
7:43 XPeng Offers Tech Chip Updates
8:51 Toyota Getting Version of New Suzuki e Vitara
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NISSAN TO SLASH GLOBAL PRODUCTION
Nissan is having a tough time and the future is looking less bright. It’s forecasting that its operating profits will drop 70% for the current fiscal year. It’s going to slash its global production capacity by 20%. It’s going to get rid of 9,000 employees. And it’s selling off 10% of the shares it has in Mitsubishi to raise some cash. Nissan’s problems are also a drag on Renault. The French automaker still controls over 35% of Nissan’s shares, and had to shave €111 million off its bottom line in the third quarter because of Nissan’s poor financial performance.
MAZDA PROFITS DROP 67%
The news isn’t very encouraging at Mazda, either. Its car sales were up a little over 2% for the first half of its fiscal year. But that’s only because of strong sales in North America. Everywhere else in the world they’re down, with big drops in China and Japan. Mazda’s revenue rose a little over 3%, but its operating income fell 20% and its net income fell more than 67%. All this goes to show that the auto industry is going through some hard times right now.
DAIMLER TRUCK DOWN IN THE THIRD QUARTER
The only real bright spot of Volkswagen’s latest financial results was its heavy-duty truck maker, Traton. But it was a different story at Daimler Truck. In the third quarter sales were down 11%, which dragged revenue down by 5% and EBIT by 12%. And for the year, its free cash flow has dropped by 46%. But despite the declines, Daimler Truck didn’t change its outlook for the rest of the year and says it will be putting its full attention on free cash flow in the fourth quarter.
LYFT GETS NEW PARTNERS FOR AUTONOMOUS EFFORTS
Rideshare company Lyft announced several partnerships to support its autonomous business. It’s teaming up with Mobileye, which makes self-driving and ADAS technology, to make Lyft’s rideshare platform available to all vehicles equipped with Mobileye’s autonomous technology. But it didn’t say when it will be available. In addition to Mobileye, Lyft is partnering with self-driving startup May Mobility, which will add its self-driving Toyota Sienna minivans to Lyft’s fleet in Atlanta in 2025. And lastly, Lyft is partnering with Nexar, a company that makes dashcams, to use video footage and data for R&D and to help improve its autonomous technology.
VOLVO EX30 FINALLY COMING TO THE U.S.
The Volvo EX30 is finally coming to the U.S. Because the EV is made in China right now, Volvo decided to keep it out of the market when the U.S. raised import tariffs 100% on Chinese-made EVs in September. It had been waiting for EX30 production to start in Belgium before bringing it to the U.S. but that’s not expected to start happening until next year sometime, so Volvo isn’t waiting any longer. It says it will start delivering EX30s in the U.S. before the end of the year, but it will not start with more affordable models. First launching are twin-motor AWD versions, which start at a little over $46,000 with destination charges.
SANDY MUNRO ON AUTOLINE AFTER HOURS
Hey don’t forget to check out Autoline After Hours later today. We have none other than Sandy Munro coming on the show, and we sure have a lot to talk to him about. Like, what will be the Trump Administration’s impact on electric cars? What role does he think his pal Elon Musk will play in the Administration? And just a whole bunch more. So join John and Gary when the show goes live at 3 pm eastern time.
EU LIKELY TO STICK TO HARDER EMISSION TARGETS
Automakers in Europe have been saying that it will be difficult for them to meet tougher CO2 emissions that kick in next year and as a result will face billions of euros in fines. But the climate commissioner, the person that actually oversees the EU’s policies on climate change, said those fears may be overstated and wants to figure out how the industry can stick to the targets. So, if the commissioner is reappointed by the European Parliament for five more years, which is supposed to happen later this month, there probably won’t be much of a change. However, with the EU sticking to its emission targets, the commissioner said it was fair for the auto industry to ask for more investment in an EV charging infrastructure.
EU AUTOMAKERS POOLING EMISSIONS TO AVOID FINES
That has the potential to be a nice boost to the EV industry, but EV sales still aren’t high enough to allow automakers to meet next year’s CO2 targets, so they’ll likely face fines. The last time emission rules got harder in 2020-2021 automakers had to pay out more than 500 million euros in fines. VW alone paid more than 100 million euros. It likely would have been a lot more, but companies were allowed to pool their emissions with other more fuel efficient automakers. Stellantis, for example, teamed up with Tesla. And that’s what we’re already starting to see again this time around. Suzuki says it will pool its emissions with Volvo, Mazda and Honda will pool with Toyota and Renault and VW also say they’re open to it. That’s going to be good news for the companies that are taking in the less fuel efficient automakers. Between 2019 and 2021 Stellantis paid about $2.4 billion to buy European and U.S. carbon credits from Tesla. Stellantis did end that partnership in 2021, claiming it sold enough electrified models to meet emission targets.
HYUNDAI OPTIMISTIC ABOUT FUTURE OF FUEL CELLS
There’s still a lot of skepticism around fuel cells but Hyundai believes it can sell between 50,000 and 200,000 units of its next-gen fuel cell system a year, including both passenger and commercial vehicles. However, it says it can’t do it by itself and demand will be influenced by the price of hydrogen, government support and availability of refueling stations. Hyundai began selling fuel cell vehicles in 2013 with the Tucson ix35 and since then it has only sold about 42,500 fuel cells. And the Nexo, which went on sale in 2018, accounts for most of that with nearly 40,000 sales.
MERCEDES CLA GETS GEELY IC ENGINE
Here’s a bit of a surprise. The all-new Mercedes-Benz CLA, which goes on sale next year, will be fitted with a 2-liter, turbocharged engine made by Geely in China. It’s rated at 250 horsepower and 265 foot-pounds of torque. Those engines will be shipped to Hungary to get installed in the CLAs. And actually, this is an engine that is made by Horse, the joint venture between Renault and Geely. And no doubt this all came about because Geely owns 10% of Mercedes-Benz.
XPENG OFFERS CHIP UPDATES
XPeng is offering customers an upgrade to their existing models, with a very intriguing promotion. It’s not an over-the-air update, it would physically install new chips for improved Level II driving and better in-vehicle infotainment, or IVI. For the Level II upgrade, XPeng wants to offer dual NVIDIA Orin X chips, instead of just one. The IVI upgrade swaps out a Qualcomm 820A chip for a new Snapdragon 8295 chip that’s also made by Qualcomm. But XPeng wants to crowd fund this update, meaning if enough people sign up it will go ahead with it. Otherwise, it won’t. The Level II upgrade will cost $2,800 and it says at least 1,000 people have to sign up for it. While the IVI upgrade is $700 and at least 4,000 people have to sign up. We think it’s a clever way to test the market. You get your customers to pony up the money before you pull the trigger.
TOYOTA GETTING VERSION OF NEW SUZUKI e VITARA
Suzuki revealed the e Vitara, its first mass-produced pure electric vehicle. This is the electric made-in-India SUV that Toyota will get from Suzuki, which was just announced the other day. The model features a lithium-iron phosphate or LFP battery pack that comes in two sizes, 49 or 61-kWh. The 49-kWh battery is only available in front-wheel drive models, which produce 106-kW or 144 horsepower. The 61-kWh battery has a range of 250 miles or 403 kilometers and is available in FWD models that make 128 or 174 horsepower or AWD models that produce 135-kW or 184 horsepower. As we said, the e Vitara will be built in India and it goes on sale in Europe, India and Japan next summer.
But that brings us to the end of today’s show. I hope to see you later during After Hours.
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wmb says
With Trump already saying that he will get read of all of the Biden administrations EV ‘mandates’ and subsidies, which Tesla/Musk benefited from them, I too wonder what Elon’s role with the new admin will be?! Musk will land on his feet, but the subsidies that Tesla recieved may not, especially with automakers that employ UAW workers, potentially benefiting from them as well, with them having supported Harris! The NA legacy OEMs may end up being collateral damage, if Trump should decide to punish the UAW for supporting his Trump’s presidential opponent. After spending billions of dollars to build electric vehicle platforms, plants and battery factories, to have the funding that was earmarked for them removed, along with the new administration not wanting to help/support UAW shops, the rough patch the auto industry is experiencing right now, may get harder, if Trump gives the UAW and the companies that employ them the cold shoulder! I wonder too, if Trump will follow through on his threat to keep California from setting its on Emission standards, which are oftentimes adopted by other states in the US? The standard that California sets has impacted not just what US OEMs bring the market, but has had an fluence on automakers around the world!
Daily Driver says
Why would Trump punish the UAW? If you guys don’t think that are large chunk of the UAW rank and file voted for Trump then you are deluded. They don’t like the EV mandates. What has it brought them? Billions in unsold inventory, furloughs, layoffs, plant closures, and production moved to Mexico. You don’t think they want those tariffs on autos coming on from Mexico? They know China will use it as a back door to destroy US market share. Labor contract means dick if your job evaporates with a shuttered factory.
Elon Musk is already embedded in government. Space X pretty much is the US Space program. And thank God because Boeing can’t even produce a reliable product to retrieve astronauts from space. Space X had to step in and bring them home or they faced another 6 months up there. Space X tech is nothing short of amazing.
I think Tesla would be fine without the subsidy. They are well established and have a following. Other OEMs maybe not so much but hell, it isn’t like the subsidy is rescuing their EV sales now.
Kit Gerhart says
Daily, yep, I know a number of UAW members, most of whom are gun nuts, and they’d vote for Trump for that reason, if no other.
Yep, SpaceX is impressive, with the reliable recovery of the boosters from the launches I see every few days. Elon has been amazing at putting together groups of people who can do stuff.
Sean Wagner says
The initial incentives for EV buyers were cut at a cumulative 200K sales by each benefiting corporation, IIRC. Tesla lost those many years ago, and was fine, as intended.
SpaceX needs competition. It’s little known that the advent of private spacefaring was very intentionally kicked off by a focused NASA program.
The point of having a cheaper manufacturing backyard is to help domestic high-applied science corporations thrive. Importing cheap plastic parts from say Mexico or Viet Nam (point being not-China), while building more exacting components locally, up to and including high-value added finished products, is how developed countries thrive.
I sometimes buy American-made socks (Smartwool) that not everyone can afford. They’re sold in quality sporting goods stores here in Switzerland. But the machines that make them mostly come from one of Europe’s many highly competitive, specialized regions.
It takes a long time, and the nimbleness of smaller companies paired with top-notch education (not only of the higher sort) and research, to establish dominance in those niches. Vulture capital abuses that kind of substance in no time.
I don’t know how the US can better pair short-term greed with long-term success without a civil society (includes business) that eschews responsibility.
MERKUR DRIVER says
Were people really clamoring for an anonymous EV SUV from Volvo with an anonymous interior? Particularly one that gets 253 miles of range. I think Volvo is going to find that it can’t compete with the cheaper Equinox EV that is equally anonymous but has a better interior design at least. Not a great interior, but better than the EX30. At least the equinox EV has an auxiliary screen in front of the driver unlike the Volvo EX30 tesla knock off interior.