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0:00 Scout EREV Motor Mounted by Rear Axle
1:25 Honda Wants Nissan CEO Gone for Merger
2:06 ZF Considers Selling EV Drivetrain Business
2:43 GM to Add Tahoe EV to Orion Plant
3:49 Renault & Geely Join Forces in Brazil
4:36 Renault Solves EV Battery Fires
5:25 Trump to Kill California ZEV Waiver
6:39 Volvo XC60 Gets New Front End
7:07 Toyota Puts Sauna in HiAce Van
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SCOUT EREV MOTOR MOUNTED BY REAR AXLE
There sure seems to be a lot of interest in Scout Motors, and we just got more details about its powertrain setups from CEO Scott Keogh. He says the extended range electric or EREV version will feature a non-turbocharged 4-cylinder engine that’s mounted just in front of the rear axle and will help charge a 60 or 70 kWh battery pack. That pack is expected to provide a battery-only range of about 150 miles, but combined the battery and engine should provide over 500 miles of range. The pure electric version will have about double the battery capacity, 120 to 130 kWh, which could put range around 350 miles. Both packs use different chemistries with Keogh hinting that the EREV has a cheaper chemistry than the BEV, which could suggest it’s an LFP or lithium iron phosphate battery. While the BEV is expected to do 0-60 MPH in 3.5 seconds, a full second faster than the EREV, over half of all reservations so far are for the range extender. The Traveller SUV is also more popular than the Terra pickup truck, accounting for 70% of orders, but the models aren’t expected to launch until sometime in 2027.
HONDA WILL CONSIDER MERGER WITH NISSAN IF IT GETS RID OF CEO
Well, well, well. That Honda/Nissan merger may not be dead after all. But the Financial Times reports that Honda will only resume talks if Nissan gets rid of its CEO, Makoto Uchida. It also says that Nissan’s board members and its partner Renault want him gone, so it’s hard to see how this guy survives. Earlier this month, merger talks between Honda and Nissan fell apart when Honda demanded that Nissan become a subsidiary of Honda, which Nissan rejected. In the meantime, Nissan is looking for another partner and Foxconn and the private equity firm KKR say they’re interested in buying part of the company.
ZF CONSIDERS SELLING EV DRIVETRAIN BUSINESS
In another sign of how the EV segment has failed to reach expectations, ZF is considering selling off all or part of its EV drivetrain division. It says that slow EV adoption and high costs are dragging down the profit margins of its traditional powertrain business. It almost seems ironic because when the giant German supplier merged its EV drivetrain business into its traditional powertrain business back in 2020, employees on the ICE side worried that they would lose their jobs in the future. Now it looks like they have the safest jobs of all.
GM TO ADD TAHOE EV TO ORION PLANT
General Motors may have delayed plans to build more full-size electric SUVs, but it’s still going forward with them. Autoforecast Solutions provided some great intel, which says GM is going to start building the Tahoe EV, code named BT1, at its Orion plant in Michigan in June of 2028. That’s the plant that had been building the Chevrolet Bolt, and was supposed to start building the Silverado and Sierra EVs this year. Now, those trucks have been pushed back to 2026, and it’s interesting to see that GM is adding an electric SUV there. Right now, full-size electric SUVs and pickups aren’t selling very well. So we think GM is adding more vehicles for the plant to build, so it has better capacity utilization.
RENAULT & GEELY JOIN FORCES IN BRAZIL
If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. We’ve already seen Stellantis team up with Chinese automaker Leapmotor. And now Renault and Geely are expanding their partnership to Brazil. They’re going to produce and sell zero- and low-emission vehicles there. Geely will become a minority shareholder in Renault do Brasil, giving it access to Renault’s plants, sales and service outlets. Those plants would make the vehicles for both Geely and Renault, in addition to the current Renault lineup and Renault will also distribute and sell Geely vehicles in the country. No financial details were disclosed and the deal still needs approval from regulators. Renault and Geely have a similar agreement in South Korea and the two companies also have a joint venture called Horse Powertrain, which makes ICE components.
RENAULT SOLVES BATTERY FIRES
While EV fires are not as common as gas cars going up in flames, it can take hours and tens of thousands of gallons of water to put out an EV fire. So, nearly 4 years ago Renault developed a way to put out EV fires in minutes and with 10-times less water. And now it’s making that patented piece of tech available for free to any automaker or supplier. Called “Fireman Access” it’s basically a sticker that goes over a hole in the case of the battery pack. If a fire breaks out, the pressure from the fire hose rips the sticker off and firefighters can pump water directly into the pack. Renault says anyone can get a free licence to use “Fireman Access,” but, in return, it says if they make any upgrades they have to share that with everyone else.
TRUMP TO KILL CALIFORNIA ZEV WAIVER
In his first term in office, President Trump rescinded California’s waiver from the EPA that allowed it to set its own CO2 emission standards. When President Biden came into office, he restored the waiver, and then had the EPA redraft it in a way that would make it very difficult to overturn in courts. The waiver now cites traditional pollutants, like NOx, carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons as the justification for California’s waiver, not CO2. So Trump is going straight to Congress to repeal the EPA’s authority to grant California a waiver. With Republicans in charge of both houses in Congress, Trump will probably get what he wants and get it fast. But California will almost certainly sue and this case will likely end up in the Supreme Court. Automakers and dealers are opposed to California’s Zero Emission Vehicle regulation, which about 11 other states have also adopted, because 35% of all vehicles sold in those states have to be electric by the end of the 2026 model year, and that model year has already started. Even California will probably not be able to meet its own mandate and it has the highest EV sales rate in the nation.
VOLVO XC60 GETS NEW FRONT END
The Volvo XC60 got a mild refresh. Highlights include a new front fascia, including a redesigned grille, and a bigger center screen. That interior screen also features Volvo’s new-look user experience display and it runs off of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon platform, which is faster and provides better graphics than before. Volvo says depending on what market you’re in, the new XC60 can be ordered now.
TOYOTA PUTS SAUNA IN VAN FOR ELDERLY BATHING
Japan has one of the oldest populations in the world, so Toyota launched an initiative to assist older people with bathing. It installed a mist sauna in its HiAce van, which provides a similar effect to bathing after sitting in the room for 10 to 15 minutes. Believe it or not, the number of older people who drown in bathtub accidents in Japan is twice as high as traffic fatalities. But the sauna eliminates the risk of drowning and by installing it in a vehicle, caregivers can travel to a person’s home. Toyota says the trial run of the program went well and it’s now looking into commercializing the service.
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Auto companies need 1 standard to build vehicles to in the US which will help them reduce costs and make vehicles more affordable to the average person. California legislature not only passed 35% zero emissions vehicles by 2026, but 100% by 2035. Not the first that California passed regulations that were unattainable and had to walk them back.
One standard would be optimal, even though automakers have been making a slightly different version of their vehicles for California emissions since 1966. It’s worth noting that EVs meet the emission regulations in all 50 states. No variations necessary.
Sean, Emission allowed should be standardized ONLY if that standard meets the needs of all of the people involved. You didn’t say what the population of the 11 states plus California is in total. If it is more than 50% of the US total, wouldn’t the car makers save money by using the California setup in all states? If one standard for all of the US makes sense, then why not force all countries that sell a lot of cars in the US to use the US standard in their country as well. I’m sure Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea and Germany would not mind.
ZF’s selling their EV powertrain business seems very short sighted. While EV adoption has been slower than predicted a few years ago, it will come, and then the company will be in deep trouble, unless they take on other business. They’ll need to shrink a lot when torque converter autoboxes are used in only 20% of new cars.
I’d like to see the US, Canada, and the EU standardize on everything, emissions, lighting, crash testing, etc. Then, I’d be able to buy, say, a rear drive diesel BMW 3 series wagon.
A lot of cars meet CA emissions, wherever they are sold in the US. Ones that I know do are 2022 Corvette and 2024 Prius.
Kevin,
California and the other states that adopted its ZEV mandate account for about 40% of all US sales.
The problem is that California’s ZEV mandate is unrealistic. It requires that 35% of all vehicles sold in the ZEV states starting this year be EVs. Next year it jumps to 43%, and goes on up from there. California itself is at about 25% today and will not meet its own regs.
As it stands, automakers and dealers in those states have two choices. Limit the sales of IC vehicles, or pay fines for missing their EV sales target.
As things are, the ZEV mandates need to be backed off on. As far as emissions, when cars as different as Prius and Corvette can meet CA standards easily enough that they use CA standards nation wide, the EPA should just adopt the CA standards.
Kit, is it far to the people who live in the other states to pay more for vehicles and in some cases get worse gas mileage that meet California standards? Most will say they don’t what to pay extra and get worse gas mileage.
George, it must not cost a lot more to meet CA standards, or companies wouldn’t make all of certain car models meet them. I’m curious about how much, if any, difference there would be in gas mileage. Would a Corvette or Prius with federal emissions really get much, or any better mpg if they made them?
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=43425&id=47243
I don’t know, but I doubt if there’d be much or any difference. Maybe John Mc. would know. I’d like to know what vehicles are sold only with CA emissions, and which are made in two versions. I can’t find a list. The ones I mentioned are ones I have, or had, and I’ve checked the stickers.
If I was the Nissan CEO I would make sure I have no skeletons in the closet. It didn’t work out so well for the last CEO that Nissan wanted to force out in order to make a deal progress. I am awaiting the next ALD where the story is the Nissan CEO being arrested.
Can we agree that letting a bunch of zealots set arbitrary and unrealistic standards that carry massive fines against automakers is not the way to do things? California cannot even meet this years’ mandates but they have yet to roll back or recalibrate anything. So automakers, and other companies and agencies have to operate under the assumptions they will incur fines and d change their behavior accordingly. What results have seen? Billions in losses on EV product lines across all OEMs (besides Tesla) while abandoning otherwise viable models. Inability to plan for the future because mandates defy reality on the ground. Fleets of massively expensive EV busses that sit broken because the manufacturer(s) went under. Fire engines not fighting fires because they’ve been parked for not meeting emissions California should not be allowed to lead anything, because the results are demonstrably catastrophic.
Ditto Germany and their economic immolation well documented in the reports of this blog. Even Porsche is cutting jobs. France imposes carbon tax on gas models equal to or more than than the purchase price of the car (100% or more) as well as a tax based on weight of the vehicle. Effectively unaffordable.
Everyone hates Tesla now, but they can thank the EU carbon penalties for their continued success there. Sales have fallen, sure, but every Tesla they do sell earns them a 5k euro carbon credit they can sell to the stooges at VW. Elon thanks them.
California is best known for being the leader in the absurd and unrealistic laws that make the social warriors feel good yet with no path to actually achieve their hefty policies. Sure it would be great if everyone drove zero emissions cars and power plants emitted zero emissions and everyone could compensate for their carbon footprint. But to just randomly pass laws requiring it to be so without the proper research and thought about how to get there is where Cali fails every time.
If it weren’t for California, it would have been extra years before cars had positive crankcase ventilation.