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Runtime: 9:53
0:00 Trump Picks New Head of DOT
0:57 Valeo Warns EU Auto Industry Needs Help
1:39 EU Wants China OEMs to Transfer Tech
2:08 New York City Adopts $9/Day Congestion Charge
3:58 Chery 1st with GWh Solid-State Battery Production
4:57 Toyota Developing System to Capture Boiled-Off Hydrogen Gas
6:24 Tesla Cuts Model Y Lease to Same as Model 3
7:01 XPeng Will Beat Q4 Revenue Forecast
7:29 Xiaomi’s Revenue Jumps 30%
8:11 GM-SAIC-Wuling Adopt CATL Battery Swapping System
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TRUMP PICKS A FOX HOST FOR DOT
President-elect Trump is moving fast to fill his cabinet and he chose Sean Duffy to head up the Department of Transportation, which is now run by Pete Buttigieg. Duffy is a former Congressman from Wisconsin and is also a host of Fox Business News. Automotive News reported that Trump was considering executives who had worked at Uber and Lyft to run the department, but decided to go with Duffy instead. Where this gets interesting is that the Department of Transportation is investigating Tesla’s Full Self Driving technology, and the Federal Aviation Administration, which is part of the DOT, is investigating SpaceX. Elon Musk has emerged as a central figure in Trump’s transition plans, and he will likely want the DOT to back off.
VALEO CEO WARNS EU AUTO INDUSTRY NEEDS HELP
The CEO of the French supplier Valeo is sounding alarms over the threat that China poses for Europe’s auto industry. He’s calling on EU officials to help level the playing field since EU companies are dealing with higher energy costs and wages than Chinese competitors. The CEO emphasized he wasn’t advocating for protectionism, rather he’d like to see the EU adopt similar policies to the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act, which provides incentives to companies for local production. If the EU doesn’t take any action, he warns that companies could be forced to move production and some may not survive.
EU WANTS CHINA OEMS TO TRANSFER TECH
But Europe is taking measures to protect its auto industry. Last month, it increased tariffs on Chinese-made EVs up to 35%. And now the Financial Times reports that the EU is planning to force Chinese companies to share intellectual property with European businesses and have factories in Europe in order to receive subsidies. It will first apply to battery companies but the plan could be rolled out to other sectors as well.
NEW YORK CITY ADOPTS $9/DAY CONGESTION CHARGE
Like many cities around the world, New York City is adopting a congestion fee to help reduce emissions. The City’s Metropolitan Transit Authority approved the toll, which will charge drivers $9 to enter Manhattan during certain times of the day, which then increases to $15 in 2031. The program is expected to raise $15 billion, which will be used to update New York’s public transportation system that’s more than 100-years-old. The toll goes into effect in early January but President-elect Trump has previously said he opposes the fees and will terminate them once he’s back in office.
CHERY FIRST WITH 1 GWH SOLID STATE BATTERY PLANT
A battery company that’s controlled by Chinese automaker Chery says it’s building the world’s first production line that can make fully solid-state batteries at the gigawatt hour level. CarNewsChina reports the site could start operating within the next few months and will eventually have the capacity to make 5 GWh of batteries a year. It also says the first solid-state cells will have an energy density similar to some of today’s liquid electrolyte lithium-ion batteries at over 280 Wh/kg. But that is expected to quickly ramp up. A second-gen cell is supposed to launch next year with an energy density of 400 Wh/kg, then go to 500 Wh/kg by 2027. Solid-state batteries are also less likely to experience thermal runaway, can handle faster charging speeds, more charging cycles and aren’t as susceptible to extreme weather.
TOYOTA DEVELOPING SYSTEM TO CAPTURE BOILED OFF HYDROGEN GAS
Liquid vs gaseous hydrogen is more energy dense and it doesn’t have to be stored in high-pressure tanks. But it does have to be stored at cryogenic temperatures otherwise liquid hydrogen starts boiling off into its gas form. Toyota is interested in trying to come up with a way to capture that boiled off gas and reuse it because it currently races ICE cars that run on liquid hydrogen fuel, but also has plans to offer the setup in other places of its lineup. So, Toyota is presenting a concept that first sends the boil-off gas into a tank, which uses the pressure of the incoming gas to increase the pressure in the tank by 2 to four times. It says that can convert the the boil-off gas back into a useable fuel, which will then be supplied back to the engine. However, not all boil-off gas can be converted back to fuel, so Toyota developed a small fuel cell stack that can produce electricity equivalent to an alternator, which could power something like the fuel pump. And any leftover boil-off gas is converted into water vapor through the exhaust system. Toyota says it’s looking for development partners and I think Daimler and Volvo Truck could benefit from a system like this. While the truck makers aren’t developing ICEs that run on hydrogen, they are working on liquid hydrogen fuel cell trucks.
TESLA CUTS MODEL Y LEASE TO THE SAME AS MODEL 3
Tesla is pulling a lot of its sales levers and we think it’s headed for a blowout quarter. It recently started offering discounts as well as free periods of Supercharger access and/or FSD. And now it’s chopping the lease price of the Model Y in the U.S. to $299/month, which is the same as the Model 3, even though the Y has a starting price that’s $2,500 more than the 3. In order to hit its targets for the year, Tesla needs to deliver over 500,000 vehicles in the fourth quarter, which would be a record for the company.
XPENG WILL BEAT Q4 REVENUE FORECAST
All Chinese NEV makers lose money, except for BYD and Li Auto. But XPeng and Xiaomi could be turning the corner. XPeng says its Q4 revenue will beat what Wall Street expected by at least $83 million, which would bring its total revenue to over $200 million. That’s because it expects car sales to come in anywhere from 44% to 51% above where they were a year ago.
XIAOMI’S REVENUE JUMPS 30%
Meanwhile Xiaomi said it lost $207 million in the third quarter, but its gross margin hit 17% and its revenue grew 30% thanks to strong sales of its SU7 electric sedan. Remember, this is the company that’s built and sold 100,000 cars in under 250 days and set a new track record at the Nurburgring with a concept version of the SU7 called the Ultra. Xiaomi is also the world’s third largest smartphone maker, and its automotive revenue only accounts for 8% of it’s total revenue. So it can more easily wait for its cars to start making money compared to other EV startups.
GM-SAIC-WULING ADOPT CATL BATTERY SWAPPING SYSTEM
General Motors and its joint-venture partners in China, SAIC and Wuling, announced a partnership with battery maker CATL to adopt its swappable battery technology for commercial vehicles. It’s a scalable system where a vehicle can install anywhere from one to three battery modules. Each module has a capacity of 26.5 kWh, which provides 200 kilometers or 124 miles of range. CATL’s battery swap stations, called Evogo, can swap a battery in one minute. There are currently fewer than 300 in China but it plans to have more than 3,000 stations in 2027.
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GM Veteran says
So, if the liquid hydrogen does not need to be kept under pressure, the tank will likely not be as puncture-proof as the gaseous tanks need to be. In the event of an accident, I’m concerned about what happens to the vehicle occupants and perhaps anyone else in the area when cryogenic level cold liquid goes flying through the air. If it landed on human skin, I don’t think it would be good. Mr. Freeze is fine in comic books, but I don’t want to be him in real life.
Kit Gerhart says
Little did I know that a president could control local tolls, like the planned congestion charge in NYC.
George Ricci says
Solid-state batteries are also less likely to experience thermal runaway, can handle faster charging speeds, more charging cycles, aren’t as susceptible to extreme weather, faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! More and more Hype every day and no one is delivering. Seven years ago, we were told that solid state batteries were 3 years away. We are still waiting! Now there is talk of a simi solid state battery.
Also, keep in mind that solid state batteries use more lithium than lithium-ion batteries, which will increase their cost.
Lambo2015 says
I doubt Trump can stop NYC from implementing a congestion fee. However seems crazy that we pay so much in taxes and then due to leaders failures to keep the infrastructure updated we need to pay another fee/tax to get into a city. I think a good city planner would prepared for city growth and how to accommodate the traffic to avoid congestion
Kit Gerhart says
Congestion fees have been used in densely populated areas around the world for years, and make sense. The NYC subway system has never really recovered from being flooded with sea water from Hurricane Sandy, and money from congestion fees could help fix it.
There is no way “a good city planner would prepared (sic) for city growth and how to accommodate the traffic to avoid congestion.” When you have more than 8 million people in an area like New York City, largely surrounded by water, things are not going to work that well with millions of cars going into the city every day. That’s why they use congestion fees in Singapore, London, Milan, and many other places.
kevin a says
Liquid hydrogen may not need to be kept under pressure, but it definitely needs a ton of insulation. If it starts to warm up, the tank could easily be pressurized enough to rupture. Plus, no matter what it is made of, that much cold would make it brittle. Google ‘brittle fracture’ if you don’t believe me.
Kit Gerhart says
Yep, even rubber becomes brittle when very cold. I remember a demonstration in elementary school with a rubber band dipped in liquid nitrogen. It broke into many pieces when dropped a small distance.
Danny Turnpaugh says
Well it’s one tax I won’t be paying, why go to NYC? It’s a cess pool it’s self. Been to NYC a few decades ago and have never wanted to go back. Kind of like San Francisco been there once and saw all it had to offer, never again. Indianapolis is heading that direction, it used to be a nice city, but crime is almost as bad as Chicago.
Merv says
Boiled off hydrogen gas, what a lot of tech to make that happen
Kit Gerhart says
I’ve been to NYC twice, but didn’t drive, and have no desire to drive there. I flew into LaGuardia and Newark, took shuttles into Manhattan, and walked and used the subway after that.
The boiled off hydrogen could be contained and put in a pressure vessel to use for the engine, up to a point. If there is too much, it would be released to the atmosphere.
Sean Wagner says
The NYC metropolitan area is home to around 20 million people, and the city itself more than just Mannahatta. I still have a signed poster of the 2013 Coney Island Mermaid Parade that I bought to support the event when it was struggling. Given the density and desire for a walkable core, cars are just not the solution for everyday transportation. Prewar, the infrastructure was fantastic, with trains, trams, subways, and intermodal hubs.
You could also skate up all the way from the Battery to the Little Red Lighthouse along the Hudson (and back, racing a guy on a bike for a bit). It’s fun.
Sean Wagner says
The CATL battery-swapping system looks neat. Exchanging smaller modules faster is the way to go, I think – it also allows more cars to be served with the same amount of on-site storage.
BYD is reportedly designing its own chips for ‘smart driving’, and not the only Chinese company to do so either.
@Sean Any chance of getting a condensed report on the Guangzhou auto show? It’s this year’s last big one.
Lambo2015 says
I guess using kits logic as long as other cities do it we should be on board. I believe other options could make getting around in NYC better. But I’m sure the fee is the simplest and easiest solution. I’m sure the money generated will all be used to improve infrastructure. lol